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    couple questions

    long time reader, short time member, FORGIVE MY RAMBLING
    I am 9 ish weeks into blast. First month was pinning 200 test cyp week day 1 to 14, then 400 day 14 to 30, then 700 30 to current split into 400 Monday and 300 Thursday. 500 iu hcg three days a week, the two days before first pin and 500 one day before second pin. Running anastrozole .5 mg twice weekly.
    I am running 2 mg of lgd 4033 twice a day. up from 1mg once / day for first two weeks then 1 mg / twice daily for two weeks. Dose ghrp and Ipam once in morning and at bed time, most days. I lift 4 days a week Monday, tues, thurs, fri. 1 to 1 1/4 hours hard. Weight increases every week. Not across the board but the initial compounds like bench, squats, etc. I can make either huge gains in first few exercises or moderate in all. But come Monday I am throwing on some more weight. My wife said that she thinks I have doubled in size. kind of small and flat before. lifted many years ago out from severe injury. Wheel chair stuff.

    Any how. Body fat is starting to get there. maybe 10% especially in the morning. I work abs hard once a week but get bloated, I think from the protein shakes. I use almond milk to avoid as much dairy as possible but eat instant oats 2 cups three times a day, shakes three times a day, three whole eggs in the morning fried in olive oil, some kind of chicken salad with vinegar and oil for lunch snack whole wheat bread with peanut butter. Tuna, large can for dinner, protein shake post work out, 8 - 10 low carb baked pitta bites. Maybe a little more oats before bed and a banana. once a week is steak night with sweet potato and salt and pepper and asparagus.

    Some slight sides, folliculitis type break out. Not bad really 6 or 7 bumps. slightly painful and raised and very slow to heal.. Spending a lot of time in tanning bed to speed healing.

    Ok on to my questions, thought I would give you flammers a back ground and time to light your torches.
    First I would like to go out big. I have medical clearance for test and get "tested" periodically. I have a hair up my ass wanting to stack some prop in for the last 3 weeks.

    Ok I know
    "test is test" it wont add anything except more test. Right. Waist of time and money?

    Been tested over the last couple months and apparently the lgd is so new and unique it seems to be off the radar for now.

    So I cant see adding deca , or anavar or any of the other Known substances that would fail a test. So that is my dilemma. I’m just trying to push it to the limit before I drop back down to trt level for a few weeks and run it all again. What, if any of the other esters would you or wouldn’t you stack in there?

    Second question: If money wasn’t a huge issue, would you pay double for pharma grade or half that for ugl gear? gear from a supposedly reviewed and recommended source. Im starting to pre plan the next blast with my wife's blessing. No, and I mean, no mood sides, I have generally always been a cool headed individual. So if not for this blast would you stack in any short acting esters for the next one? cannot admit or deny any bennifits of the lgd in and of itself because of the stack with large quantities of test but still dont want to leave it off till the end.

    Even the trainers have stopped me and said that I was really changing and gaining, he he. I just say well I have a good work ethic.

    I am caught all up in it!!!

    you may fire when ready.
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    Oh and I must say, I keep and accurate lifting log, and a video log weekly to keep up with gains on paper and gains in the mirror.

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    Holy Christ my ADD kicked in part way through this.

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    little wordy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctnj View Post
    little wordy?
    Perhaps a bit lol. I will say I got the add prop to an already existing test cycle. No point considering it doesn't sound like you plan to PCT

    I'm curious why you kept increasing the test dose instead of keeping stable levels?

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    two reasons really, one to try and catch at what dose there may be the onset of sides for next time. Secondly, knowing a slight bit about pharmacology, slow introduction will encourage upregulation of receptors so that higher doses become more effective, i.e. more places for it to go. And to clarify some other posts on down regulation. On a cellular level it takes on average, a year to homeostatic pre treatment levels. that is with almost any drug. That is why it was my plan from the begining to end at max dose and drop to trt for only a small drug holliday. See you are born with a certain level of receptors in the body and to flood you system with twice what it can handle will just be a waste of a substance. It will be filtered metabolized and discarded. Allowing more cells to be inlisted into creating receptor sites allows a greater percent utilization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    Holy Christ my ADD kicked in part way through this.
    Haha. I got about 1/3 through and scrolled down to the answers

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    Ok but the two questions still remain
    1 go with big pharma and big pharma prices. And quality
    or
    2 go with cheap ugl and hope for the best?


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    add in short ester test prop for final 3 weeks or forget it?

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    If you have access to pharm grade then I would choose it every time and if you are dropping to a trt dose after your cycle then running prop along side the long ester will serve no benefit.

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    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctnj View Post
    two reasons really, one to try and catch at what dose there may be the onset of sides for next time. Secondly, knowing a slight bit about pharmacology, slow introduction will encourage upregulation of receptors so that higher doses become more effective, i.e. more places for it to go. And to clarify some other posts on down regulation. On a cellular level it takes on average, a year to homeostatic pre treatment levels. that is with almost any drug. That is why it was my plan from the begining to end at max dose and drop to trt for only a small drug holliday. See you are born with a certain level of receptors in the body and to flood you system with twice what it can handle will just be a waste of a substance. It will be filtered metabolized and discarded. Allowing more cells to be inlisted into creating receptor sites allows a greater percent utilization.
    If you are referring to something like beta receptors yes, but AR receptors are shown to actually increase with administration of exogenous testosterone . Down regulation of AR receptors is a myth IMO.

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