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    Hey guys been using gear for a few years now
    I'm 21 weigh 210lbs 6foot and not sure my body fat percentage but I have been as low as 12% all the way up to 22% I'm probably around 17% now. My goals for this cycle are to get lean muscle and burn some fat off and just over all tone up. This is the first time I have used all these compounds in one stack. I'm taking 1ml Sustanon 250, 1ml Masteron , EOD with 12.5 Mgs aromasin and 100mgs anavar ED. Not exactly sure when I want to incorporate in the tren or clen though. I have been on cycle for 2 weeks now .

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    Wow .........STOP!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypat123
    Hey guys been using gear for a few years now
    I'm 21 weigh 210lbs 6foot and not sure my body fat percentage but I have been as low as 12% all the way up to 22% I'm probably around 17% now. My goals for this cycle are to get lean muscle and burn some fat off and just over all tone up. This is the first time I have used all these compounds in one stack. I'm taking 1ml Sustanon 250, 1ml Masteron, EOD with 12.5 Mgs aromasin and 100mgs anavar ED. Not exactly sure when I want to incorporate in the tren or clen though. I have been on cycle for 2 weeks now .
    I wonder who this young dude is. Hey what's up I'm 21 too. You need to start by working on diet. Less carbs more meat and veggies for sure. Just a guess but less fats too.
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    Lol you have no clue what my diet is like. I have been there and done that I've had shredded abs before I know what I'm doing.

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    The difference says it all in your usernames buddy!!

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    I disagree everything is so wrong I don't know where to start crazy-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypat123
    Lol you have no clue what my diet is like. I have been there and done that I've had shredded abs before I know what I'm doing.
    Then what happened?

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    Ok let's have a look!!

    Stats-

    Age: ?
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    BF%: ?
    Cycle Exp: ?
    PCT Knowledge: ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by West Coast Winner

    Then what happened?
    Work in a restaurant and started eating too much and got to busy to hit the gym as hard as before didn't take it as serious but I've been back in the rhythm and my diet is in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjayman02
    Ok let's have a look!!

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    Check the OP..
    Bro I know how to cycle I'm no noob I don't need your criticism. My post was about my stack and when to incorporate tren + clen . Not to tell you about how long I've been working out for.

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    Care to throw up a recent pic, maybe taken today?

    Ever had any bloodwork done?
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    Well if your no noob then you know stats are relevant to tailor a response for you!!

    But what do I know!!

    At 21 your far too young even for a test only cycle

    Drop your body fat to 15%

    You want to get lean then eat clean ( which you do anyway so won't be a problem )
    What is your TDEE and macro split like?

    What is the length if cycle planned ?

    What PCT have you planned and times with dosage?

    HCG & AI ?

    Length of anavar and at what week you intend to start?

    Adding tren and maybe clen ........a lot to go on here and I'm not trying to criticise but without all the relevant information the advice will be flawed for you!!

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    Hi BinB nice to have you aboard buddy!!

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    [QUOTE=itsjayman02;6602310]Well if your no noob then you know stats are relevant to tailor a response for you!!

    But what do I know!!

    At 21 your far too young even for a test only cycle

    This ^^^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Care to throw up a recent pic, maybe taken today?

    Ever had any bloodwork done?
    This^^^

    Quote Originally Posted by crazypat123 View Post
    Check the OP..
    Bro I know how to cycle I'm no noob I don't need your criticism. My post was about my stack and when to incorporate tren + clen. Not to tell you about how long I've been working out for.
    Its one thing to know how to inject/eat drugs. Its another to know how to cycle properly. You're gonna regret cycling so young. Speaking from experience. I'm the same as you though. I gotta touch fire to learn not to get burned. Already doing a Tren /var/mast/clen stack at 21 lol. Unless you're a Pro BB on a cutting cycle, I don't see the need to use Var/masteron /Tren/clen together. I'd recommend not inqorporating the Tren and clen. If you diet right, you can achieve your goals naturally pretty quickly. Now that you've cycled before... you probably can't/don't want to achieve them naturally bc it takes too much discipline/hard work. Again, not knocking ya. Speaking from experience. You're on the road to relying on the AAS, and not the diet/training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjayman02 View Post
    Well if your no noob then you know stats are relevant to tailor a response for you!!

    But what do I know!!

    At 21 your far too young even for a test only cycle

    Drop your body fat to 15%

    You want to get lean then eat clean ( which you do anyway so won't be a problem )
    What is your TDEE and macro split like?

    What is the length if cycle planned ?

    What PCT have you planned and times with dosage?

    HCG & AI ?

    Length of anavar and at what week you intend to start?

    Adding tren and maybe clen........a lot to go on here and I'm not trying to criticise but without all the relevant information the advice will be flawed for you!!
    This^^^

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    So you know how to cycle, but you're here asking questions?
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    So how many cycles have you run at the ripe old age of 21 ? And what were they ?i see no mention of hcg or an ai or your pct? Please list those you have used in previous cycles. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypat123 View Post
    Lol you have no clue what my diet is like. I have been there and done that I've had shredded abs before I know what I'm doing.
    Good thing you know what your are doing because in a few years you wont. I knew what I was doing at 21 also. When I turned 30 I realized what a fool I was at 21. When I reached 40 I realized I still had a lot to learn when I was 30.

    No, I dont expect you to get it but you will someday.
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    I get yeah luvbyts ........hopefully I'm still pimping iron at 60 and remembering today having learned from my mistakes

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    See another mistake haha pumping !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Good thing you know what your are doing because in a few years you wont. I knew what I was doing at 21 also. When I turned 30 I realized what a fool I was at 21. When I reached 40 I realized I still had a lot to learn when I was 30.

    No, I dont expect you to get it but you will someday.
    I see you don't know what you are doing with this cycle. It isn't a good cycle on just one common thought you don't need all of it to accomplish what you want. Next your body fat % is too high and needs to be lower thru diet and training with cardio.
    Now we all could sit here and explain all of the why's in detail but since you say YOU know what you are doing and resist to see you and here about your stats, you will just start an argument. I'm done, not doing this again. ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjayman02 View Post
    I get yeah luvbyts ........hopefully I'm still pimping iron at 60 and remembering today having learned from my mistakes
    Ya think , Ha!!! Hope I'm still pumping iron at 70...cool don't ya know. ...crazy mike
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