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    Welshguy1 is offline New Member
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    Extreme PIP and Blood when aspirating

    So I started my first short ester cycle of test, tren and mast, injecting it 3x a week.

    Iv done 2 previous cycles with long esters and never had any problems injecting...

    Now, I get terrible Post Injection pain which normally starts around 24h after injecting...

    Im not sure if the gear is dirty or its just due to the short esters?

    But due to the fact I Injected in my right thigh Friday, and could hardly walk over the weekend (I told people It was due to me falling down the stairs) I thought it would be best to inject into the same leg so that both legs wouldnt be out of commision and nobody would get suspicious.

    So I injected as normal, yet when I aspirated, blood shot into the needle (a fairly large amount). So I pulled out, changed the needle, cleaned a new spot, and tried again... exactly the same thing happend... large amount of blood shot into the syringe (Normally when aspirating I see maybe one or two drops at the base of the needle) I tried it 1 more time and guess what... it happend again...


    I changed legs, and the injection went fine... is it possible that I have an infection in my leg? or what could cause so much blood to fill the syringe even though I aspirated in 3 places?



    edit: Gear is legit (all side effects and gains present) Yet is known for being a cheap source... (Maybe its low quality oil?)
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    Drawing blood is not an indication of an infection. You just weren't lucky enough to miss a vein. Not very common, but certainly not impossible. When I aspirate blood, I typically hit a completely different body part. If you're experiencing discomfort, give it a few days for swelling to go down. could be due to an unsteady hand. I'm guessing that after the 3 injection, you may have lost some stability and/or had a sense of urgency while injecting.

    That said, it's very normal for short esters to cause far more discomfort than long esters. But if it's to the point where you can't walk, you may want to reevaluate your cycle and/or gear.
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    I personally have never pinned in my legs before. If you're using Prop or any type of gear that is known to give PIP... I'd recommend pinning glutes. I've had some really bad PIP from UGLs and I can't imagine having to walk around all day on that pain. I wouldn't be injecting in the same spot like that either. Especially if you have PIP there. I doubt its infected. Watch it though.

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    Austinite... I was hoping you'd leave yesterdays pic up for a while.

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    Second that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flacco View Post
    I personally have never pinned in my legs before. If you're using Prop or any type of gear that is known to give PIP... I'd recommend pinning glutes. I've had some really bad PIP from UGLs and I can't imagine having to walk around all day on that pain. I wouldn't be injecting in the same spot like that either. Especially if you have PIP there. I doubt its infected. Watch it though.
    ^^ I agree with this and also with Austin~.. I think you need to pin your glutes. Why you didn't ? but anyway also you might reevaluate all the gear and your techniques.

    May I ask your stats:
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    ^^ I agree with this and also with Austin~.. I think you need to pin your glutes. Why you didn't ? but anyway also you might reevaluate all the gear and your techniques.

    May I ask your stats:
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    No Idea, Never tried glutes, was taught to mainly use thighs and never had problems before

    Have run a Test E (500mg/w) cycle, then Test E, Tren E and Dbol (dbol was fake) and currently running the test, tren, mast cycle.

    Im 22, 6'1 ish and currently weighing 190lbs at around 17-20% (guess) Slight bit of stomach fat from bulking but hoping to lose it with this cycle

    Will have a look into glutes if thats what everyone recommends

    And as theres no symptoms of an infection I guess it was just bad luck or an unsteady hand.

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    You might want to consider reading The young and Steroids
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    Damn, 22? and running third cycle? How are you only 190lbs at 6'1" after running two previous cycles?

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