How much stronger is test prop than test e

**Whiteboyy0** · 07-14-2013, 05:38 PM

I've been reading on here that test p is moderately stronger than e. how does 150 mg eod of test prop compare to 500 mg test e? Yes I'm aware that that 150 mg eod adds up to more than 500 mg weekly

**Fcarey32** · 07-14-2013, 05:49 PM

Test is test. Test enanthate & propionate are the same exact hormone, just with a different ester attached causing different release rates. 150/EOD is 525/week. 25mg more of prop a week compared to test E won't yield much of a difference at all. Just one takes longer to work.

**Chx beach 79** · 07-14-2013, 05:56 PM

Same exact strength.

**Fcarey32** · 07-14-2013, 06:04 PM

Long story short, exactly what he said.

**Whiteboyy0** · 07-14-2013, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

Same exact strength.

Not according to the steroid profiles on this site. It says you actually get less testosterone per mg you inject because of the longer ester

**Chx beach 79** · 07-14-2013, 06:14 PM

Good to know... I have used both and haven't noticed a difference. Of course I could maybe dig up some old bloodwork and see if that's true.

**Fcarey32** · 07-14-2013, 06:16 PM

It's not much of a significant difference, if any at all.

**Bonaparte** · 07-14-2013, 06:27 PM

It's a 17% difference, if I recall.
Test E is 70% test, and prop is 87% I think.

**Fcarey32** · 07-14-2013, 06:28 PM

But that shouldn't matter if the concentrations were the same, the enan would just take up more volume, correct?

**GrimmReaper** · 07-14-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

It's a 17% difference, if I recall.
Test E is 70% test, and prop is 87% I think.

You learn something new everyday on this forum.

**Java Man** · 07-14-2013, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

It's a 17% difference, if I recall.
Test E is 70% test, and prop is 87% I think.

By weight or by volume?

**lstbred** · 07-14-2013, 07:09 PM

Is it the dilution rate that makes the final difference?

**Fcarey32** · 07-14-2013, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Java Man

By weight or by volume?

I'm pretty sure it weighs more seeing as enanthates atomic mass is greater than propionates, and that also leads me to believe it takes up more space. Seems like that anyways. 200mg of enan is 140mg test & 200mg of prop would weigh out to be 174mg of actual test.

But back to op's question, the ester doesn't make it any stronger at all, just more potent.

**Lunk1** · 07-14-2013, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

It's a 17% difference, if I recall.
Test E is 70% test, and prop is 87% I think.

That sounds right as I believe tren A is 20% vs Tren E

**redhawk01** · 07-14-2013, 07:15 PM

Breakdown:
100mgs test susp=100mgs test
100mgs test cyp= roughly 70mgs test
100 mgs test prop= roughly 87mgs test
Cyp and E are very similar. Horse a piece.

I can't find the #'s at the moment. So this is from past reading.

**Chx beach 79** · 07-14-2013, 07:18 PM

Good to know! You learn something everyday around here!

**Whiteboyy0** · 07-14-2013, 07:24 PM

So would 525mg of test p have a stronger effect on test levels than 500 mg test e? Or is it negligible?

**Fcarey32** · 07-14-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Whiteboyy0

So would 525mg of test p have a stronger effect on test levels than 500 mg test e? Or is it negligible?

Yes, moderately significant if these findings are true.

**redhawk01** · 07-14-2013, 07:45 PM

Sometimes guys use prop on the back end of a blast when on TRT. Clears faster before bloodwork can be done for the doc. Then go back to TRT dose prior to bloods.
I guess in theory, one could use it to kick start, similar to a d- bol kick for 4 weeks.

**Bonaparte** · 07-15-2013, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Fcarey32

Yes, moderately significant if these findings are true.

Of course they are. It is just basic math with atomic weights.
And it has nothing to do with density or concentration (once brewed). It is just that esters have mass (duh) and longer ones obviously weigh more and occupy a larger portion of the raw powder.

**austinite** · 07-15-2013, 12:15 AM

Stronger is the wrong word really.

**kelkel** · 07-15-2013, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by redhawk01

Breakdown:
100mgs test susp=100mgs test
100mgs test cyp= roughly 70mgs test
100 mgs test prop= roughly 87mgs test
Cyp and E are very similar. Horse a piece.

I can't find the #'s at the moment. So this is from past reading.

Red what the hell is that ^^?

**ChiveOn** · 07-15-2013, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by redhawk01

Breakdown:
100mgs test susp=100mgs test
100mgs test cyp= roughly 70mgs test
100 mgs test prop= roughly 87mgs test
Cyp and E are very similar. Horse a piece.

I can't find the #'s at the moment. So this is from past reading.

Something close to this. It all comes down to the weight of the ester attached

**redhawk01** · 07-15-2013, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Red what the hell is that ^^?

Lol. Ever play bar dice? One tie all tie. Basically means they're the same.
Maybe it's a Wisconsin / Midwest thing.

**SEOINAGE** · 07-15-2013, 03:00 PM

I was messing with this online calculator and it made quite a lot of sense. Because of props shorter half life you used up what you injected much faster. Basically your peak levels would be much lower with 500 mg a prop vs 500 mg of enanthate . Although the enanthate might take 4 times as long to reach peak concentrations, your peak concentration would still be higher theoretically. The first bunch of injects float around longer making you have more, not to mention it takes longer to get out of your system, so in essence some of it is wasted. Prop just seems like a much better and more efficient, healthier approach. And I would imagine easier to manage e2 and sides etc. Hit hard and fast and then get off fast.