deca 2nd cycle?

[johnnymctrance]

Hi just thinking in advance of my next cycle (not until january)

would it be wise to consider deca for a second cycle?

if the answer is yes then would decanoate or npp be preferable or is it all down to preference?

what type of a different pct protocol be necessary?

[austinite]

sure. Choose your ester based on your injection frequency preference. Same PCT as a test only cycle. Will need Prami on hand.

[johnnymctrance]

is prami that purchased from the site sponsor shipped to the uk?

[johnnymctrance]

what dosages of decanoate would u recommend for a 1st time cycle of deca ?

[ChiveOn]

If you're going with 500mg weekly of test then 400mg weekly of Deca is a good place to start IMO

[BlueWaffle21]

Knock out the prop and NPP man!!

[ChiveOn]

It's personal choice, I prefer shorter cycles so I would also go with prop and NPP. But if you're goin for a serious bulk there's nothing wrong with a longer cycle.

[5x10]

If you're going with 500mg weekly of test then 400mg weekly of Deca is a good place to start IMO

900mgs a week for a 2nd cycle
Overkill IMO

I think he could do just fine with 300 test, 200 deca
My first cycle was 250 of each and I gained 20lbs

[ChiveOn]

To each his own. That's what I would do as far as dosing, and that's what I was thinking about for a third cycle. Far down the road as it may be.

[human project]

Hi just thinking in advance of my next cycle (not until january)

would it be wise to consider deca for a second cycle?

if the answer is yes then would decanoate or npp be preferable or is it all down to preference?

what type of a different pct protocol be necessary?

If your planning on using the same mg's either way id defiantly go with the faster esters especially with NPP.... For many steroids ester has no effect on gains but 500mg's of NPP is far superior to 500mg's of deca IMO..... This is obviously from no research but from personal experience....

[johnnymctrance]

If i get the decanoate (as i think i might have too due to money) and its dosed 250mg/ml would and my cycle is 12 weeks of test and 10 weeks of deca (at lets say 250mg/1ml per week) would 1 x 10ml multi-dose vial be sufficient of nandrlone decanoate?

[ghettoboyd]

If i get the decanoate (as i think i might have too due to money) and its dosed 250mg/ml would and my cycle is 12 weeks of test and 10 weeks of deca (at lets say 250mg/1ml per week) would 1 x 10ml multi-dose vial be sufficient of nandrlone decanoate?

one 10ml vial will not be enough bro you will be lucky to get 9 weeks due to the gear that gets wasted in the pins...

[johnnymctrance]

Ye i know what u mean but would it warrant buying a whole extra vial of deca just to get the extra weeks doasage, would it be make a huge difference if the deca was ran for 9 weeks instead of 10?

Or should i get a 2nd vial of deca and just up the dosage so it lasts 10weeks altogether?

[ChiveOn]

That's really up to you. I always get extra just in case something breaks etc. plus with Deca being a long ester is want to run it out longer if I could. Just my .02

[johnnymctrance]

I think i will go with the one as money is tight at this point for me... im getting a vial of test prop to go with my 2 vials of enanthate and my vial of deca ,

Would you be able to advise me as to the best way to begin the cycle? should i kickstart with the prop? if so how do i mix prop ester with enanthate ester and the deca?

[Chx beach 79]

I think i will go with the one as money is tight at this point for me... im getting a vial of test prop to go with my 2 vials of enanthate and my vial of deca ,

Would you be able to advise me as to the best way to begin the cycle? should i kickstart with the prop? if so how do i mix prop ester with enanthate ester and the deca?

If it is a money issue then how do you afford all the food and supplements that go along with cycling? I'm just wondering if you have good ideas for food and all the other things that go into a successful cycle? People always tell me they can't afford the food not really the steroids as they are just a small part of the financial equation... The majority of people have to spend 10x the money on the extra food and supplements needed while cycling., not including: multiple bloodworks, vitamins, etc.

[johnnymctrance]

I hear ya man, im well aware of the food costs on cycle trust me!...Anyway my cycle doesnt begin until january and my friend is in thailand getting it for me.. i have already given him a certain amount of money so im getting what i can out of that amount... my funds back home are fine... I could ask him (nicely) to pick me up a 2nd vial of deca if he has extra cash if it is recommend by you guys!

Lets say i do ask him and he agreed... would a dosage of 500mg deca and 500mg test per week for a 2nd cycle be overkill?

[Chx beach 79]

I hear ya man, im well aware of the food costs on cycle trust me!...Anyway my cycle doesnt begin until january and my friend is in thailand getting it for me.. i have already given him a certain amount of money so im getting what i can out of that amount... my funds back home are fine... I could ask him (nicely) to pick me up a 2nd vial of deca if he has extra cash if it is recommend by you guys!

Lets say i do ask him and he agreed... would a dosage of 500mg deca and 500mg test per week for a 2nd cycle be overkill?

I was just wondering because I was putting together some diet and grocery ideas for people to buy while on a budget and on a cycle. I found if they buy food in bulk and uncooked it can be way cheaper, I'm always looking for others secrets and tricks so I can pass the information on...

If you can, have the deca on hand it would be better, but if not you'll simply just have to cut it short.

[ChiveOn]

I wouldn't put the Deca that high. I know I suggested it at 400mg earlier, but I have a firm grasp on how to handle a 19nor already and I am not sure where you're at with that. I would certainly keep the test higher than the Deca if nothing else, you can always save some for another cycle

[johnnymctrance]

I wouldn't put the Deca that high. I know I suggested it at 400mg earlier, but I have a firm grasp on how to handle a 19nor already and I am not sure where you're at with that. I would certainly keep the test higher than the Deca if nothing else, you can always save some for another cycle

Point taken i have no previous experience with 19nor's, it was just i was reading up on other threads saying 250mg of deca is a dosage only used for joint problems so it has me a little confused..

[johnnymctrance]

I was just wondering because I was putting together some diet and grocery ideas for people to buy while on a budget and on a cycle. I found if they buy food in bulk and uncooked it can be way cheaper, I'm always looking for others secrets and tricks so I can pass the information on...

If you can, have the deca on hand it would be better, but if not you'll simply just have to cut it short.

Very good, would you have some ideas you would like to share?

[5x10]

Point taken i have no previous experience with 19nor's, it was just i was reading up on other threads saying 250mg of deca is a dosage only used for joint problems so it has me a little confused..

Deca is very anabolic , 250 will serve you well
500 mgs of mixed roids will produce better results than just 500 of test, at least that is what I experienced
Save the extra cash u would use to do a gram a week and buy bulk meats to cook at the start of the week

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

I'd favor

1g test
.6 deca
50mg dbol ED
slin 4wks on/2-4 weeks off

this would blow you up like crazy.

[Chx beach 79]

^^^^^ holy crap! For a second cycle? That seems irresponsible

[OnTheSauce]

I'd favor

1g test
.6 deca
50mg dbol ED
slin 4wks on/2-4 weeks off

this would blow you up like crazy.

Brb recommend high doses and insulin to someone inexperienced and looking to do their second cycle. You should not give any more advice

[johnnymctrance]

Ok so here is my proposed cycle,

Test prop - weeks 1 + 2 @150mg EOD
Test E - weeks 3-12 @250mg mon and thurs
Nandrolone decanoate - weeks 1-10 @250mg with monday pin of test

week 14- clomid - 75mg/day and tamoxifen - 40mg/day
week 15 + 16 - clomid - 50mg/day and tamoxifen - 20mg/day
week 17 clomid - 25mg/day and tamoxifen - 20mg/day

*Could someone please advise me as to how to best mix test prop and test enanthate compounds to be used as a kickstart? Im am a little unsure about this!

Thanks

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

up the dose by alot. your body likes testosterone and nandrolone . they are the "healthy steroids ." nothing wrong with running a gram or two.

if you wanna kick start with prop, start both prop and e on week 1. also I would extend the cycle to at least 20 weeks

[Back In Black]

up the dose by alot. your body likes testosterone and nandrolone . they are the "healthy steroids ." nothing wrong with running a gram or two.

if you wanna kick start with prop, start both prop and e on week 1. also I would extend the cycle to at least 20 weeks

Stop giving advice unless you can start giving sensible advice!

Wtf is your definition of a 'healthy' steroid ?

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

Stop giving advice unless you can start giving sensible advice!

Wtf is your definition of a 'healthy' steroid?

A steroid that doesn't really mess with your bloods. (except slightly RBC and hemocrit)

[Back In Black]

A steroid that doesn't really mess with your bloods. (except slightly RBC and hemocrit)

???? Genius, they must be healthy then.

[ChevyTruckRedneck]

???? Genius, they must be healthy then.

okay, your turn.

tell me what would be wrong with running like 1g test .6g deca for 20 weeks

[austinite]

A steroid that doesn't really mess with your bloods. (except slightly RBC and hemocrit)

Curious how you know this? My understanding is that you have no experience. Do these blood issues level out after cycle?

[BG]

You start the test-e at week one. Run the prop until week 3-4.