What happend to you on your first serious cycle?

[kbeezy321]

I'm sure that everyone (for the most part) does extensive research before going on a cycle (What their PCT is, What their dosages are, how long the cycle is going to be, and so on & so forth).

But was there anything that happened to you on your first cycle that you weren't expecting that you didn't research that much on and wish you did?

Some specific information that you advise someone to not over look.

[NotConvincedYet]

Very good question for those new to the game. Wish I'd thought of this question before I did my first!

I did a test only for my first. Stock standard 10 weeks (was going to be 12 but progress halted by 10 so I cut it short). 250mg 2 x week. Then stock standard PCT of nolva and clomid. What I didn't expect was a ridiculous amount of back acne during PCT, and loss of libido mid PCT that has lasted some time after PCT (still fingers crossed it returns!).

I havent taken bloods yet as I am 2 and a half weeks post PCT, but I dare say these sides are due to hormones being out of whack and could have been limited with proper protocol.

Lessons learned - don't wait till 'signs of gyno' before you use an AI. This seems to be common practice. My next cycle, I'll be using it regardless. And get your hands on HCG during cycle. Most of my issues came when my cycle was over. It felt like I'd been hit with a baseball bat come recovery time. So with the use of AI and HCG I do believe recovery will be much easier.

HAVE YOUR PLAN AND EVERY COMPUND READY BEFORE YOU START

[nikepump8844]

NotConvincedYet, did the sides you mentioned happen in tandem with loss of muscle and/or fat gain post-cycle? Would be interested to know why you felt Nolva/clom. was insufficient for you on this cycle. Thanks

[NotConvincedYet]

NotConvincedYet, did the sides you mentioned happen in tandem with loss of muscle and/or fat gain post-cycle? Would be interested to know why you felt Nolva/clom. was insufficient for you on this cycle. Thanks

I gained 15lbs on cycle, I have maintained 8-9 lbs.

I dont think nolva and clomid were insufficient, I think it I could have done better by maintaining testicular function (HCG ) and limit estrogenic side effects (I am assuming may have contributed to acne) whilst on cycle. Also individual differences contribute to how well one recovers I am assuming. Some people seem to get no sides, others get gyno... for me it was acne.

I think loss of weight is innevitable post cycle, but I think it can be limited by proper on cycle, and post cycle therapy (hence why I say HCG and AI is a no brainer for me next time).

Yes I have gained belly fat, and lost some muscle. I am not too worried though because I know how to eat and train this away

It certainly is not a wonder drug that's for sure. I think newbies under estimate the risks involved.

[KidsMeal27]

I am on my first serious cycle of 500mg testE a week. 5 weeks in now and virgin muscles SUCK!! Felt like Mike Tyson punched me in the legs for the first two weeks. I also learned I cant handle 500mg shots and my leg swelled up like a balloon lol if u can take it its worth two shots of 250 a week. Recovery time is much faster imo. 5 weeks in now and i also will be starting HCG

[kbeezy321]

interesting stuff, and kidsmeal27 why did you inject 500mg all at once, ive read that you are suppose to space out the injections like 2.5 days apart or something like that

[SimplyFlawless]

a ton of water weight

[spywizard]

diet is the key.. if anything else i've learned.. diet is the key to success..

with correct diet, one can accomplish the desired effects with much less..

[JohnnyVegas]

interesting stuff, and kidsmeal27 why did you inject 500mg all at once, ive read that you are suppose to space out the injections like 2.5 days apart or something like that

Injection schedule depends on the ester.

Great stuff in this thread.

[SimplyFlawless]

diet is the key.. if anything else i've learned.. diet is the key to success..

with correct diet, one can accomplish the desired effects with much less..

Don't kid yourself. Drugs are the key to success. Diet supplements a good drug regimen

[kbeezy321]

bumping this, anything else?

[gixxerboy1]

i started dating a bi sexual stripper. Wasnt expecting that but it was a nice side effect

[gixxerboy1]

Don't kid yourself. Drugs are the key to success. Diet supplements a good drug regimen

you should do more reading and less posting

[Revelations]

you should do more reading and less posting

Agree with gixxer.
But I would say I would be more aware of my Test side which was "being delusional" and "hallucination"...I wanted to hump any woman that was halfway attractive lol

[t-dogg]

i started dating a bi sexual stripper. Wasnt expecting that but it was a nice side effect

And here I thought I was on the right track. I won a gold medal competing, doesnt really compare I guess lol.

[Times Roman]

Don't kid yourself. Drugs are the key to success. Diet supplements a good drug regimen

jibber jabbber. are you just trying to get a reaction from everyone?

If you don't have anything of value to say, then please keep it to yourself. This is the Q&A section where we try to keep it somewhat serious. If you want to screw around and be funny, do it in the lounge.

[Armykid93]

you should do more reading and less posting

Triple agree,
This is a great thread btw, very interesting hearing peoples stories haha

[gixxerboy1]

diet is the key.. if anything else i've learned.. diet is the key to success..

with correct diet, one can accomplish the desired effects with much less..

in all honestly this is the best answer. Diet is huge and i can do alot more then i ever did before with changing my diet. and for me im continually learning

[bigga4068]

My first cycle I was misinformed by what thought at time was a relia le source. He advised me to take 250mgs every week of deca and test. Was to much shock for my body wound up with the worst case of acne I have ever seen. No one on this site has posted pics that even come close and it happened really fast. For me it was about 2 weeks from first signs of a few pimples til solid acne across my back shoulder area and inbetween my pecs. I was raining mma at time and had to wear 2 shirts and gauze padsjust to keep the blood from draining thru. Eventually I had to take a break in training til I got it under control becuz it hurt so bad to touch it. 6 years later and left with scars all over the area. Sure ya cant see it from a distance but upclose looks like I got shot by rocksalt upclose.

[bigga4068]

Now I have done a cpl more cycles and now my body can take twice as much no acne but you gotta give your body time to adjust effectively. Plus dont underestimate the importance of PCT. good question to ask tho and nutrition is by far the most important factor PERIOD!

[austinite]

My first cycle was 15 years ago. (I dont really count that as a cycle). I was feeling good but wanted to get shredded. A friend recommended EQ. Didnt know jack about AAS and didnt even do any research. After a night of heavy drinking, I decided to pin. Being a young, drunk idiot that I was, I extracted who knows how much, injected into my beer, and downed it. While everyone was cheering me on, I began to feel incredibly sick. I dont even know if it was really eq. Couldnt stay up so I went to bed.

woke up the next day feeling ok. And started injecting this random stuff EOD. 2 weeks later, I got bacne like you would never ever believe. Today, 15 or 16 years later, I have post-hyper-pigmentation.

Permanent damage can be done, its true and Im living proof.

[Excelled]

^ I was rofl!! That's hillarious...

My first was oral only cycle for 30 days at 20 yrs old... Gained solid 20 lbs went from 234 to 253 lbs at 5'8"

Lift went from:

Incline 225 for 8 to 315 for 5
Deadlift 545 lbs Max to 655 lbs
Squats: 500 for 5

No sides... only obvious side was insane back pumps which cut the workout in half.

Mistake: began cutting in week 1 of pct... idiot!

NEVER CUT DURING PCT!!

[traindude]

^ I was rofl!! That's hillarious...

My first was oral only cycle for 30 days at 20 yrs old... Gained solid 20 lbs went from 234 to 253 lbs at 5'8"

Lift went from:

Incline 225 for 8 to 315 for 5
Deadlift 545 lbs Max to 655 lbs
Squats: 500 for 5

No sides... only obvious side was insane back pumps which cut the workout in half.

Mistake: began cutting in week 1 of pct... idiot!

NEVER CUT DURING PCT!!

Dude,are you a powerlifter?
Nice progress!

[srt4wad]

This is a really good thread I give props to the OP.

I do have a question on the acne, what time frame did you start getting it? I am starting wk 5 of sust only and I have had a couple pop up in the last 2-3 weeks but not bad. I thought my chest was breaking out but, I shaved it and I think its ingrown hairs.

One thing I did not really see or read up on is the sweating at night I get, its bad sometimes I get up to take a leak and my pillow is f-ing soaked and where my back is at.


I hope my questin is not hijacking this thread. If it is please let me know and I will start my own.

[Zackery]

I must be honest. In terms of my cycle I planned everything perfectly. I was on a 15 week Test Cyp Cycle with Dianabol for a kickstarter and Anadrol for the last 5 weeks. I had a solid PCT and recovered no problem. I only got acne when I started with the Anadrol but that luckily cleared up afterwards. Otherwise no problems or side effects. My diet was perfect so I had some epic gains.

The one thing I didn't plan for that was unexpected..? The cost of maintaining that diet. Eating 6 meals a day doesn't come cheap. Then you still have to get your protein shakes, creatine, glutamine etc.

[srt4wad]

^^^^Yes the cost is crazy. I eat 7 times a day and try to keep powder down to only bed time. I eat whole food meals and only add powerder if I will not be around the house mostly on the weekends I will have 1-2 shakes. I am removing one of my meals and going to use dinner as my post workout I usually had a shake and then ate an hour later but my wife has dinner ready when I get home from the gym so I have decided to use that has my post. Then at about 9 have my powder and cottagecheese for bed.

[BlueWaffle21]

Agree with gixxer.
But I would say I would be more aware of my Test side which was "being delusional" and "hallucination"...I wanted to hump any woman that was halfway attractive lol

I honestly thought it was just me, everyone I know is giving me shit for wanting to bang anything that walks by!!


Just do your research on here and your cycle will go fine, these guys know their shit and the stickies are great!!

[Peter32]

I'm on my first Test E cycle now 3 weeks in, injecting 250mg every monday morn and Thursday night. I did start on 200mg of test e and 50mg of test prop but dropped it on advice from members here. I haven't noticed any side effects bar increased libido/stamina, I'm lifting heavier already and gained 2kg so far I'm hoping it'll really start stacking on by week 5/6. Got pct sorted with clomid an nolvadex . Already thinking bout my next cycle an how I will stack ??

[Dukkit]

I planned everything to the T.

Test E and Dbol .

I had the timing of shots and pills laid out.

I gained about 20 lbs.

Then I got locked up 8 weeks in and lost 25lbs.

[oscarjones]

[evander87]

1st cycle for me was test-e 500 a week for 10 weeks. I gained 20lbs kept 15.

[lovbyts]

Did your acne scab up really bad? how long did it take to go away and what did you do for your next cycle to prevent it?

Once you reach 50 post you might want to try to PM him instead of expecting him to keep tabs on a post that is almost a year old. Thank you for not being like a lot of other newbies and replying to a thread that is 3, 4, 5 years old.... PLEASE dont.


FYI NotConvincedYet has not posted for almost 8 months.

[ironbeck]

I had wonderful success...every one wanted what I was on, they didn't realize it was all hard work and diet!

[swolestriker3]

I have only done one and went real good, but from my experience I feel I had higher expectations from it.