Test Prop + Clen cycle recommendation

[Rodic]

Hi guys I am planning to run my first ever cutting cycle which consists of the following. Just need advice on how much nolva and clomid to take and also would you run clen during the cycle or after you completed the cycle along with the PCT.

8 week test prop cycle 100 mg EOD

2 week on and off cycle of Clen

PCT consisting of both nolva and clomid both for 4 weeks.

Stats:
Have been training for 3 years

Age: 23

Weight: 85kg or 188lbs

Bodyfat: 12-13% respectively

Diet: I have calculated all my macros so diet will be spot on

[slfmade]

Hi guys I am planning to run my first ever cutting cycle which consists of the following. Just need advice on how much nolva and clomid to take and also would you run clen during the cycle or after you completed the cycle along with the PCT.

8 week test prop cycle 100 mg EOD

2 week on and off cycle of Clen

PCT consisting of both nolva and clomid both for 4 weeks.

Stats:
Have been training for 3 years

Age: 23

Weight: 85kg or 188lbs

Bodyfat: 12-13% respectively

Diet: I have calculated all my macros so diet will be spot on

Normally I would tell you to go do some research cause the answer to your question is SUPER easy to find, but I'm feeling very generous today so here you go.

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

As for the clen - Either run it while on cycle or after pct. The last thing you wanta try to do during pct is cut...you'll lose everything.

[Rodic]

Thanks bro, appreciate your generosity heaps !!!

[Capebuffalo]

I don't see hcg od an AI????

[Randy_Mar]

Everyone does clom/nolva a little different, but you can base it off off something like this: (4-5wks)
Clomi/75mg Nolva/40mg
Clomi/75mg Nolva/40mg
Clomi/50mg Nolva/20mg
Clomi/25mg Nolva/20mg

And add some arimidex or aromasin in there. (A.I.)

As for as your other question goes, i'm running test prop, tren ace right now. For the last 6wks of my cycle I added in clen + t3 (Clen 1wk on 1wk off, and T3 all 6wks)
If you run T3, do it on cycle....it can tend to decrease muscle along with fat.

[Rodic]

Cant afford HCG but defs will throw in arimidex for the less water retention. Although will it help out if gyno occurs ?

[slfmade]

Cant afford HCG but defs will throw in arimidex for the less water retention. Although will it help out if gyno occurs ?

Oh boy...you've got a lot of reading to do before you start this cycle. I would never do a cycle without HCG and AI. Plus HCG isn't expensive - maybe you should wait until you can afford it before you run your cycle.

[Rodic]

Oh boy...you've got a lot of reading to do before you start this cycle. I would never do a cycle without HCG and AI. Plus HCG isn't expensive - maybe you should wait until you can afford it before you run your cycle.

Some people don't run HCG even though its recommended for better recovery and keeping you testies from shrinking so fair enough.

But for AI isnt it only necessary to use it if symptoms such as gyno or bloating was to occur. Or is it absolute must to use, cause I know people who just have it on hand and use it if bloating or gyno was to occur.

[ChiveOn]

I would never tell anyone that an AI was optional. Some may not need it but most of us do.
Why fight gyno after its occurred when you can prevent it, along with other sides, from the start!? It just doesn't make sense to do it only after its too late

[Rodic]

True bro, defs will use an AI...