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    shutdown for life after using aas?

    Is it possible for your normal test production to become shut down for good and you need trt the rest of your life because of using aas?

    Just chatter that I have heard from folks against the usage of aas.

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    Yeah, its possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Is it possible for your normal test production to become shut down for good and you need trt the rest of your life because of using aas?

    Just chatter that I have heard from folks against the usage of aas.
    abuse and being uneducated will factor into this huge !
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    Okay was just curious.

    Kinda makes me a bit on edge about knowing I could need trt the rest of my life because of my aas usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards
    Okay was just curious.

    Kinda makes me a bit on edge about knowing I could need trt the rest of my life because of my aas usage.
    Its simple- get blood work done!

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    Feel awkward telling my doctor about my aas usage.

    But, even with bw done I still am at risk of becoming permanently shut down, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Feel awkward telling my doctor about my aas usage.

    But, even with bw done I still am at risk of becoming permanently shit down, correct?
    I would certainly avoid telling your doctor. This could prevent you from ever being able to be insured in the future.

    Blood work will give you your state of health, it will not prevent any issues. It's merely a diagnostics tool.

    I'm very happy to see that you're researching thoroughly. Whatever you decide, we'll be here to help you through the safest route.
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    I have pinned once, on Monday. 250mg of test e and ran 2 doses of liquidex at. 25 per dose.

    Would I need pct if I decided to discontinue use after doing more research? What about after two pins?

    I want the gains and will probably regret discontinuing use but the test will not go bad right? I can always come back later and continue after I'm more clear headed about this decision.

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    Possible, but not likely based on the people I know that have done it

    It's usually the guys that do tons of it for long periods of time, get addicted, get off for a short period of time, then say the py no longer produce and self administer trt

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    I have pinned once, on Monday. 250mg of test e and ran 2 doses of liquidex at. 25 per dose.

    Would I need pct if I decided to discontinue use after doing more research? What about after two pins?

    I want the gains and will probably regret discontinuing use but the test will not go bad right? I can always come back later and continue after I'm more clear headed about this decision.
    No. you do not need PCT, you'll be just fine. You have up to about 2 weeks. After that is when risk really begins.
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    Thx for your help Austinite. And the others as well.

    I'm doing further research than I did before starting (which I did research just not enough to feel comfortable) and am on edge about causing permanent shutdown and am on the fence about stopping my cycle.

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    I like to think that, with the wealth of knowledge, and ancillaries, compared to 20, or even 10, years ago, if used PROPERLY, the risks are low.
    Still, not a decision to be taken lightly!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I would certainly avoid telling your doctor. This could prevent you from ever being able to be insured in the future.

    Blood work will give you your state of health, it will not prevent any issues. It's merely a diagnostics tool.

    I'm very happy to see that you're researching thoroughly. Whatever you decide, we'll be here to help you through the safest route.
    Agreed ^^^

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    It's a risk we all take. But with proper education and application you can minimize that risk substantially.

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    That's good you are doing a lot of research. If you are not willing to accept the risk then I surely would not advice you use AAS. Fortunately I have not ran into this problem, but if I did I would be willing to embrace my consequences.

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    Sounds like a big risk for someone like me that is just a gym junkie without interest in a bodybuilding future. Not knocking anyone as I may change my mind in the (near) future but is it worth the risk of being shutdown for life?

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    I'm 30 years old. I am not in need of trt at this age as I'm still waking up with morning chubbys and have a high sex drive. Now when I reach a older age and all that starts to diminish I may have a different outlook being I may need trt as is but I'm on edge about "forcing" myself into trt without letting nature run it's course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Sounds like a big risk for someone like me that is just a gym junkie without interest in a bodybuilding future. Not knocking anyone as I may change my mind in the (near) future but is it worth the risk of being shutdown for life?
    Not for you.

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    I've made some nice gains natty and think I will continue with it for awhile longer. Thx for all your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards
    I've made some nice gains natty and think I will continue with it for awhile longer. Thx for all your help.
    You in the avi? I agree. Keep it up!

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    Yes. That's me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    No. you do not need PCT, you'll be just fine. You have up to about 2 weeks. After that is when risk really begins.
    Do I need to continue to run the liquidex or can I drop that as well? I don't want gyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Do I need to continue to run the liquidex or can I drop that as well? I don't want gyno.
    No you don't as long as you are dropping everything else.

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    ^^Cool. Thx for the response.

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    This is one of the advantages of being 45-50 years old. Chances are your already suffering from low test so there's nothing to recover from!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    This is one of the advantages of being 45-50 years old. Chances are your already suffering from low test so there's nothing to recover from!
    This was my previous point. When my life cycle finally hits I will not be as on edge as I will probably need trt anyways or getting close.

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    STOP everything ryt NOW !

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Sounds like a big risk for someone like me that is just a gym junkie without interest in a bodybuilding future. Not knocking anyone as I may change my mind in the (near) future but is it worth the risk of being shutdown for life?
    Yes.

    Unless you are afraid of needles or something what is so bad about TRT? I can't quite see it myself, seems considerably better than having to rely on your own weakening production as you get older.The actual risk itself doesn't seem very large at all, I'm more than willing to take it.

    I'm not even a gym junkie, I just workout regularly. Not a BBer or powerlifter, nothing.

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    TRT is not cheap for the average patient, even with insurance. It becomes something to seriously consider when you start a family and have kids with all the expenses. 4 shots a week, constant blood work (especially at start), estrogen balancing, hCG is very expensive, too, doctor visits... adds up quick with both Time, money and inconvenience. No matter how much you get used to it and it becomes a habit, it's not exactly fun.

    Most new TRT users want to quit after a while. So I'd say it's best not to be married to a needle until you absolutely have to. Meanwhile, you'd do everything you can to cycle safely.
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    Well, my test has an expiration date of 07/2015 so should I decide to go on with the cycle (which I'm sure I eventually will) I will be good up until that expiration date, correct? The test doesn't weaken?

    Austinite, if you don't mind me asking how much does trt run you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Well, my test has an expiration date of 07/2015 so should I decide to go on with the cycle (which I'm sure I eventually will) I will be good up until that expiration date, correct? The test doesn't weaken?

    Austinite, if you don't mind me asking how much does trt run you?
    Haven't really put it to paper, but certainly close to 3500 yearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Haven't really put it to paper, but certainly close to 3500 yearly.
    Wow. That's with insurance?

    Also, does the test weaken when it gets closer to the expiration date on the vial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Wow. That's with insurance?

    Also, does the test weaken when it gets closer to the expiration date on the vial?
    Everyone's protocols are different. Not everything I use is covered. I'd probably safely say that the majority pay 2000+ per year.

    Test is good even years passed the expiration.
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    im new here and tht austinite ws actually dana linn bailey until now ! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Sounds like a big risk for someone like me that is just a gym junkie without interest in a bodybuilding future. Not knocking anyone as I may change my mind in the (near) future but is it worth the risk of being shutdown for life?
    Good thing your allowing for a buffer zone.....there are some that have not run into any problems so they keep going until one day they find they have gone to far, past the point of no return. Always keep yourself a buffer zone, know the limits. Just because you have done it one time no prob, do not let it add up to one time to many.
    Personally I never did any type of steroids , other than one time injections by a doc at an injury site. Although I did workout a lot, but was mostly into long distance marathons, guess i was into the runners high. Then again, in the Military, and not wanting to screw up my career, I did not want to piss hot. Now with age, and old injuries, on TRT. You educate yourself, and use common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Everyone's protocols are different. Not everything I use is covered. I'd probably safely say that the majority pay 2000+ per year.

    Test is good even years passed the expiration.
    Is it worth it to "force" myself into paying over 2 grand a year for trt when I may never have actually needed it? Difficult decision.

    Like I've said. I'm sure I'll end up running the full cycle eventually but I have slot to ponder atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by uoflcards View Post
    Is it worth it to "force" myself into paying over 2 grand a year for trt when I may never have actually needed it? Difficult decision.

    Like I've said. I'm sure I'll end up running the full cycle eventually but I have slot to ponder atm
    Well, the truth is that no matter what you do, it's a risk. TRT is in the future of most men. Just do what you can to cycle safely so that you can delay the need for TRT.

    Best of luck to you.
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