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    Frozenballs is offline New Member
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    Cycle, mixing short with long esther and AI

    basicaly I have a few short questions.

    I am thinking about running

    500mg test e (1ml twice a week)
    350ml tren a (1ml/eod)
    50mg proviron /day

    tren a 8 weeks test 10 or 12 weeks and adding proviron in the third or fourth week.

    Now my question, are there any negative effects on running a long esther (test e) with a short one (tren a). Shall I start tren in lets say the second or third week so they roughly kick in at the same time or do I still get any benefits from the test e in the first few weeks although it hasnt really kicked in. I mainly wanna use test e for money purposes, Im a student and getting the same dose on test P is more than twice as expensive.

    Will proviron do for AI, as tren also dries out a bit. It also boosts the effect of test and helps my libido (have issues with this) So besides the anti oestrogen effect it has more benefits for me compared to ari for instance.

    Also what will work better, doing bulk for 8-10 weeks then 2-4 weeks of keto diet or just clean bulk. I did like to drop from 8.2% to 6%.

    stats

    6''4
    220lbs
    8.2%

    Thanks in advance

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    austinite is offline HRT Specialist ~ AR-Platinum Elite-Hall of Famer ~
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    There are no adverse interactions between esters. Proviron is the weakest compound known to man. Good for nothing but a libido boost. Use Arimidex and have prami on hand.
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    it seemed to work for my bloat when I ran test e on 500-600, didnt do anything for my libido though. Tren is supposed to dry you out a bit aswell right so I wont need any strong AI like ari? Only reason I think of adding proviron is for the bloat

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    Bloat is a weak indicator. You need blood work to do this properly and responsibly.

    Do you really and truly think that AI's are solely for water control?
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    Op your education appears to be a bit shallow. I will say you need to do more study. All the reasons for AI. Have you heard of Gyno. All the different sides that come with high E2, you should know. ...crazy mike Good luck

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    Yeah, I wont say im an expert indeed but you dont have to a chef cook to make a pizza. I've ran 600mg test e without any sings of gyno, I always have some ari on hand (friend of mine has it as hes prone) incase I willg et any sings. Also I am thinking about swapping prov with 0.5mg ari eod as it seems provi is overrated and it didnt do much for my libido last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenballs View Post
    Yeah, I wont say im an expert indeed but you dont have to a chef cook to make a pizza. I've ran 600mg test e without any sings of gyno, I always have some ari on hand (friend of mine has it as hes prone) incase I willg et any sings. Also I am thinking about swapping prov with 0.5mg ari eod as it seems provi is overrated and it didnt do much for my libido last time.
    Have at it. I just go it safe and more by the book. I know what high E2 can do as well as paying for a lot of blood work to keep it under wraps after a crash when trying to stabilize. Been there done that. Good luck. ...crazy mike

    Oh one last thing I'm on 1,525mg week Test and my libido is through the roof at age 62, gotta laugh at that. High E2 can kill your libido so my Ai controls mine. ....cm
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    So will 0.5mg arimidex EOD be enough for a AI or is it too low dosed?

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