Test gyno problem

**Fdiddy16** · 08-15-2013, 04:28 PM

I am 20, doing my first test p cycle, it's been a week and a half.

I am taking 500 mg per week of teat p
I am also taking 20 mg of Aramaix per shot (every second day)

I started having a tingling nipple issue, so I took 40 mg of Aramaix and 60 mg of nolvadex yesterday. The feeling went away.

This morning I took 40 mg of nolvadex and all was good but right now both nipples are really sensitive and the left one is really itchy.

Should I stop taking test and start pct, I think I am doing everything right but I am not sure why I am getting gyno symptoms.

Any suggestions or anything ?

Also, how long would it take before you actually develop the breasts?

Thanks

**austinite** · 08-15-2013, 04:31 PM

What on earth is Aramaix ?

**Fdiddy16** · 08-15-2013, 04:34 PM

Sorry, typo arimidex *

**austinite** · 08-15-2013, 04:36 PM

20 and 40 milligrams? Tell me that's a typo...

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 04:38 PM

Obviously you haven't researched enough about steroid . Read the young and steroids when you come into the forum. You have no business doing steroids at your age of 20. Many more thing can happen to screw up you life then Gyno. You get off the Test and get your diet in check along with the proper bodybuilding routine. If you knew about Test raising your Estrogen you would have a clue as to what you are doing.

List your complete stats, how long lifting and your goals. Then get over to the nutrition board for help with your diet. That's if for now. ...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

20 and 40 milligrams? Tell me that's a typo...

OMG...

. ...cm

**Fdiddy16** · 08-15-2013, 04:48 PM

arimidex 1.25 to 2.5 yesterday .

I am
6 feet, 196 pounds, 13% body fat

**austinite** · 08-15-2013, 04:51 PM

Man, that doesn't even look like a typo. Looks like you changed your dose. And what's the deal with the range? is it 1.25 or 2.5 ?

Either way, that's still 10 times higher than a standard dose. You need blood work. I have on idea what you're doing. This conversation is too inconsistent for me. Maybe others will chime in.

Good luck.

**FONZY007** · 08-15-2013, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Man, that doesn't even look like a typo. Looks like you changed your dose. And what's the deal with the range? is it 1.25 or 2.5 ?

Either way, that's still 10 times higher than a standard dose. You need blood work. I have on idea what you're doing. This conversation is too inconsistent for me. Maybe others will chime in.

Good luck.

Damn that is alot of adex for sure!!

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 05:40 PM

What at that dose in a few he will crash and more. Buddy we have established you don't know what you are doing. OK so be it. It is what it is.
Best thing to do now is tell us the whole truth even if you were mistake or lied we are here to help now.
SO stet the stage and tell us all stats all with length of training etc...
Then tell us everything you took from day one (1) tell us day by day mg by mg. Be cool and slow and get the typos and spelling worked out.
You came for help so get humble and open and forget the embarrassment.
We would like to help you NOW. ...crazy mike

**Cuz** · 08-15-2013, 05:47 PM

surely to god he didn't take 20-40 mg arimidex ...

your starting does should have been .25 eod then .25 ed and .5 and so on. You need to stop before you fvck yourself up man.

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 05:53 PM

OP your light is still on. Come on back and let us straighten you out. WE won't bash you. You did what you did and that's that. Pick up the pieces and move on with the proper plan. ...crazy mike

**MajorPectorial** · 08-15-2013, 05:59 PM

Better we help u out of it.

**Fdiddy16** · 08-15-2013, 06:19 PM

Sorry guys, I'm getting advice from a friend. I wasn't aware of all of the dosages. I just got off the phone with him, heres the facts.

Taking 500mg/wk Test P, Got all the ancillaries (HCG , chlomid, nolva, AI)

This is the beginning of my second week and I have been taking 0.25mg armidex EOD. I noticed sensitive nipples yesterday, so I upped my armidex to 0.5 EOD and took 60mg Nolvadex . This morning my nipples still feel sensitive so im not sure how to proceed. I was planning on upping my nolva to 80mgs for now and seeing if the 0.5 of armidex will help. Because Prop is a short ester, I can stop taking it right now, but it would be a shame if I had to PCT after just 1 week.

What would you guys recommend as far as Nolva, AI dose? How worried should I be after only 2 days of having tingly nipples? When should I just abandon ship and PCT early.

Thanks for the concern

T

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Fdiddy16

Sorry guys, I'm getting advice from a friend. I wasn't aware of all of the dosages. I just got off the phone with him, heres the facts.

Taking 500mg/wk Test P, Got all the ancillaries (HCG , chlomid, nolva, AI)

This is the beginning of my second week and I have been taking 0.25mg armidex EOD. I noticed sensitive nipples yesterday, so I upped my armidex to 0.5 EOD and took 60mg Nolvadex . This morning my nipples still feel sensitive so im not sure how to proceed. I was planning on upping my nolva to 80mgs for now and seeing if the 0.5 of armidex will help. Because Prop is a short ester, I can stop taking it right now, but it would be a shame if I had to PCT after just 1 week.

What would you guys recommend as far as Nolva, AI dose? How worried should I be after only 2 days of having tingly nipples? When should I just abandon ship and PCT early.

Thanks for the concern

T

Ok OP, I'm glad you are back. I will have to let some of the more experienced members help you with you next procedures. But here is the scoop with out bashing. YOU NEED TO STOP what you are doing, now. I know you don't want to but you better or it seem like you're going to fuk yourself up. As you can tell now you don't know what you are doing and UI can tell you that your body and mind is not ready for this. AT your age you have thrown you whole hormonal balance out of wack. Your Estrogen is going up and consequently your Gyno is beginning quickly. Along with this you will be encountering more sides like water retention. Your body has not matured and you will fill up with water. Your Blood pressure can go up also. You are shutting you system down before it has leaned to function and it may screw with you libido and erections down the line.
Did you know this and or did you just ignore this.

On another note why are you running Test Prop only for this cycle.
To end the lecture I just am telling you in short why you need to stop.
The Others will help you get out of this. ...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 07:18 PM

I will continue. If your E2 gets out of wack you will feel like sh!t. if you start to mess with the Arimidex haphazardly with out blood work to watch you can crash your E2. I promise you if you crash you will almost feel like dying. It can kill any cycle. You need blood work. you need to get an a male sensitive assay Estradiol blood workup.
Those are just more things for you to learn about. others will help you. ...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 07:33 PM

bump

**Fdiddy16** · 08-15-2013, 08:09 PM

Thanks for the reply, and thanks for your concern CM. I had my bloods done before cycle and everything came back normal. I wanted to wait until week 2-3 before I did bloods again, that way everything should have caught up to the dosages of everything I am taking. I know what you are talking about with people < 25 cycling and HPTA risk, I have heard lots of conflicting opinions at different places. I am 21 in a month so I decided the rewards out weighed the risks (and i know many that would both agree and disagree). From what I've read, with proper PCT and HCG usage on an 8 week cycle, it should be not bad to come back from. But i've got my precycle bloods to compare to post cycle to confirm. As far as E2 goes, the dosage ive bumped to sofar is 0.5 MG EOD, I dont think i'll crash estrogen although I would like to increase my AI to 0.5 ED perhaps.

I know AAS is risky at any age, but more so at 20. I am willing to come off but I would like to explore other options first.

**crazy mike** · 08-15-2013, 10:24 PM

Hey, just got done watching a movie with my wife. I don't understand why no help. They want you to summit to stopping because we generally don't help the young to continue.
It seems you have your mind made up. I'll tell you with the right diet and calories you can do what you want to do without aas. At your age you will not keep the intermediate gains. When you stop and dry out you will see. The risk for short a short term pump is not worth the risk. So what if you gain whatever and have trouble the rest of your life with sex and end up on TRT for your life. Is that worth it. Read up and investigate the problems encountered are by many. Research the testimonies. Study up on the sides of high Estrogen.
Bottom line is it takes years many years to build hard lean muscle mass. A cycle her and ther at your age will not do it and all you are going to get is a temp pump and a little temp strength gain only to land back in the cycle of years to build mass.
I'm backing out I've said enough. Hopefully you will just stop and not inject again and keep your AI at .25 ED to stay level. ...crazy mike