Tren E vs Tren A

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-27-2013, 08:58 AM

Group,

Other than Tren A having a short ester, thus requiring eod pinning, is there an advantage of one over the other?

**clarky.** · 08-27-2013, 09:02 AM

No advantage just long /short cycles but if you use tren a and you don't like/handle the side when you stop the compound will leave your system quicker.

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-27-2013, 09:18 AM

Will Tren Ace deliver quicker results since it's a short ester, say for example, Prop is a short ester and I see results faster when compared to Test Ethanate. (Generally speaking)

**clarky.** · 08-27-2013, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy

Will Tren Ace deliver quicker results since it's a short ester, say for example, Prop is a short ester and I see results faster when compared to Test Ethanate. (Generally speaking)

Yes.

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-27-2013, 09:35 AM

Are the side effects lower, the same, or worse for Tren A vs. Tren E?

**DexterMorgan** · 08-27-2013, 09:52 AM

Agree with clarky. It sounds like you view Tren a and e as 2 different compounds. Tren is tren, only difference here is the releasing time.

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-27-2013, 09:56 AM

I was just curious. I am very happy with Tren Ace and it's time to re-order. I think I am going for Tren E so I don't have to pin so often.

**Hazard** · 08-27-2013, 10:05 AM

Here's my experience.....

I personally love tren e because of the pinning. The pins don't bother me but I run out of sites because I can't pin glutes or quads anymore.

In my experience..... Tren a hits you faster and stronger. The Esther weight also is something to take into account. 100mgs of tren a yields roughly 87mgs of tren. 100mgs tren e is even lower as the enanthate Esther weighs more.

The 87mg figure is off the top of my head so it may not be accurate but you get the idea. You can sear h it to know for sure - if I get around to it ill post it up.

All in all...... Tren is is preferable for me due to injecting twice a week as opposed to 4x a week. It's also more "tolerable" IMO. Tren a seems to slam you - which I also love and prefer as tren a has never given me sides too bad to handle.

**probuild42** · 08-27-2013, 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=Hazard;6655808]Here's my experience.....

I personally love tren e because of the pinning. The pins don't bother me but I run out of sites because I can't pin glutes or quads anymore.

Sorry to get off track of the OP. Why cant you pin glutes and quads anymore?

**Hazard** · 08-27-2013, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by probuild42

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I think it's scar tissue in my glutes. Every time I pin there the oil takes an insane pressure on the syringe to go in. It also burns like fire when the pin goes in.

My quads are painful as fvck. The right quad is ok as I can pin the sweep. I've had 2 knee surgeries on the left side and since those it seems my sweep is gone. If I try to pin there it feels like my whole quad is on fire.

Now I stick to delts, tris, and chest. All completely painless.

**probuild42** · 08-27-2013, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I think it's scar tissue in my glutes. Every time I pin there the oil takes an insane pressure on the syringe to go in. It also burns like fire when the pin goes in.

My quads are painful as fvck. The right quad is ok as I can pin the sweep. I've had 2 knee surgeries on the left side and since those it seems my sweep is gone. If I try to pin there it feels like my whole quad is on fire.

Now I stick to delts, tris, and chest. All completely painless.

Its sounds like it is related to injury? Not pinning multiple times. correct? I only pin my glutes and quads so far (1 month into 1st cycle). Dont want to F up the muscle!!

**redz** · 08-27-2013, 08:46 PM

I stick with Tren E myself though i have never tried Ace. I am not a fan of constant injecting which makes the longer ester the obvious choice. Also it seems the fabled tren cough is far more common with Tren Ace than Tren E. I have only gotten it twice and it was from a brutal TNT blend.

**Hazard** · 08-28-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by probuild42

Its sounds like it is related to injury? Not pinning multiple times. correct? I only pin my glutes and quads so far (1 month into 1st cycle). Dont want to F up the muscle!!

I used to pin glutes once a week for a long time. After a while it just felt like I pulled the needle out of a fire before I put it in me. It literally had a bad burn Durring the whole injection and it took forever since the oil wouldn't push in.

It's good practice to utilize different sites anyways. You'd be surprised at how easy the delts, tris, an pecs are. I was nervous as hell but after the first shot..... I was asking myself why I didn't try it sooner. Pecs are even easier than quads haha

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-28-2013, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I used to pin glutes once a week for a long time. After a while it just felt like I pulled the needle out of a fire before I put it in me. It literally had a bad burn Durring the whole injection and it took forever since the oil wouldn't push in.

It's good practice to utilize different sites anyways. You'd be surprised at how easy the delts, tris, an pecs are. I was nervous as hell but after the first shot..... I was asking myself why I didn't try it sooner. Pecs are even easier than quads haha

Glutes...good, Quads...hit or miss with pain, Biceps...sore/uncomfortable for several days!

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-28-2013, 10:54 AM

So I have run Tren Ace with Cyponate, however, my new sources has everything...if money was no object, what would you run Tren with?

**Hazard** · 08-28-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy

So I have run Tren Ace with Cyponate, however, my new sources has everything...if money was no object, what would you run Tren with?

Test e - tren e - and if bf is low enough mast e

Money no object? Serostim

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-28-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Test e - tren e - and if bf is low enough mast e

Money no object? Serostim

Nice! Serostim is a GH, right? I am at 13% so am considering Prop or Mast for my upcoming cycle.

**K_Maki1** · 08-28-2013, 11:22 AM

If you run test e and tren e is it ok to get away with pinning every 3rd day?

**Hazard** · 08-28-2013, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by K_Maki1

If you run test e and tren e is it ok to get away with pinning every 3rd day?

Yes..... Mon/thurs would be fine IMHO.

**Hazard** · 08-28-2013, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy

Nice! Serostim is a GH, right? I am at 13% so am considering Prop or Mast for my upcoming cycle.

I'd save the mast for sub 10%

It's effects won't be all that noticeable and because its a dht it'd cause (me personally) to break out a bit and I also like my hair

**Indymuscleguy** · 08-28-2013, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I'd save the mast for sub 10%

It's effects won't be all that noticeable and because its a dht it'd cause (me personally) to break out a bit and I also like my hair

I see. My body and libido LOVES gear that has a high DHT content. I'm 60% bald anyway so loosing more isn't an issue.