quit after 5 weeks

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 07:53 AM

Ok so I stopped pinning my test e after I got a huge, and I mean huge lump on my right glute. Had small lumps before that were not painfull but this hurt like hell, started thinking abcess wtf! My wife who pins me refused to pin me anymore unless it got better. Well 11 days later its gone, should I keep going or start pct. I can warm up my test e see if that helps or have some test p here by next week. I dont want to stop my cycle unless thats the advice I get from most.

**redz** · 09-08-2013, 08:33 AM

You've already messed this cycle up. I would look at changing the brand of gear you use.

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

Ok so I stopped pinning my test e after I got a huge, and I mean huge lump on my right glute. Had small lumps before that were not painfull but this hurt like hell, started thinking abcess wtf! My wife who pins me refused to pin me anymore unless it got better. Well 11 days later its gone, should I keep going or start pct. I can warm up my test e see if that helps or have some test p here by next week. I dont want to stop my cycle unless thats the advice I get from most.

I'm only telling you what I would do. I would go to pct. something your doing is not right. Recheck your sterilization and injection technique I have only been pinning for five weeks in quads but have never had a lump let alone several. Could be your gear but what ever it is something's not right. I would stop recheck and research to try and find any mistakes I might be making. Also you should be pinning yourself not having your wife do it. It's my thought you should be able to rely on yourself for YOUR cycle. Any one else is unreliable.

**gearbox** · 09-08-2013, 08:47 AM

Lumps happen and they go away.
What length needle did you use?

No prob with stopping just get on pct.

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by gearbox

Lumps happen and they go away.
What length needle did you use?

No prob with stopping just get on pct.

I see where your going with this. My guess also is his wife's not injecting deep enough. Should be 1 1/2 in glute needle that is.

**gearbox** · 09-08-2013, 09:01 AM

1.5 is fine.
I have gotten lumps large and u gotta take aspirin to be able to walk for that week.

**Cuz** · 09-08-2013, 09:17 AM

I say go deep into the tissue and inject slower. hate that happened man, you were just getting into it at week 5

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 09:28 AM

Ya we have 1.5 alwaya do the glutes

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 09:35 AM

How long u guys think I need to be off pct to start up again since it was so short

**gearbox** · 09-08-2013, 09:55 AM

How long since last pin

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

How long u guys think I need to be off pct to start up again since it was so short

Blood work is the only answer.

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

How long u guys think I need to be off pct to start up again since it was so short

It was short in terms of an average cycle but long enough to shut you down. If you don't get bloods it's a guessing game.

**Hazard** · 09-08-2013, 10:04 AM

I've had oblong lumps in my glute..... Maybe about 3" wide......

It sounds like the gear crystallized in your glute. Many recommendation heat but upon researching the topic I found that ice should be applied along with massaging. I went for a deep tissue massage once when I had one and it hurt like a mother fvcker but the lump was gone a day later.

Is EO the carrier or oil?

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I've had oblong lumps in my glute..... Maybe about 3" wide......

It sounds like the gear crystallized in your glute. Many recommendation heat but upon researching the topic I found that ice should be applied along with massaging. I went for a deep tissue massage once when I had one and it hurt like a mother fvcker but the lump was gone a day later.

Is EO the carrier or oil?

You didn't say what you were pinning, I don't think. That is important.
^^^ Is more correct. If it has only been 11 days out/off and you are using Test E or an oil base , you don't have to stop. You have not ruined your cycle at al. Five weeks in is a time to bet busy and aggressive more than not. Oil base what ever is a long ester. Either get on PCT or continue as you investigate the gear.

Some gear crystalizes Post injection. Or at least I have had a problem one time. Is this stuff a blend. There are some other medicating factors here, or might be.

You are doing the right thing w/1-1/2". Also bullshit on not using someone to pin. I do it myself, I have my wife do it and sometimes when I'm running and have some issues with my a$$ I have a friend who is QUICK with his stab. He can do better than my wife or myself. I & we find a spot that is not sore and hit it. Change area.

When I do Prop I do shoulders with a 25G 5/8" because I an\m an ecto and it works. I try to keep my shoulders to 1/2cc and do both , etc... However I can pin myself but it goes good to use another person the knows how from time to time.

There are no absolutes here. Pinning is a personal event and such it is a thing to be worker out if a problem ensues. ...crazy mike

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

You didn't say what you were pinning, I don't think. That is important.
^^^ Is more correct. If it has only been 11 days out/off and you are using Test E or an oil base , you don't have to stop. You have not ruined your cycle at al. Five weeks in is a time to bet busy and aggressive more than not. Oil base what ever is a long ester. Either get on PCT or continue as you investigate the gear.

Some gear crystalizes Post injection. Or at least I have had a problem one time. Is this stuff a blend. There are some other medicating factors here, or might be.

You are doing the right thing w/1-1/2". Also bullshit on not using someone to pin. I do it myself, I have my wife do it and sometimes when I'm running and have some issues with my a$$ I have a friend who is QUICK with his stab. He can do better than my wife or myself. I & we find a spot that is not sore and hit it. Change area.

When I do Prop I do shoulders with a 25G 5/8" because I an\m an ecto and it works. I try to keep my shoulders to 1/2cc and do both , etc... However I can pin myself but it goes good to use another person the knows how from time to time.

There are no absolutes here. Pinning is a personal event and such it is a thing to be worker out if a problem ensues. ...crazy mike

I assume you know how to pin yourself should some one to be able to help you

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

You didn't say what you were pinning, I don't think. That is important.
^^^ Is more correct. If it has only been 11 days out/off and you are using Test E or an oil base , you don't have to stop. You have not ruined your cycle at al. Five weeks in is a time to bet busy and aggressive more than not. Oil base what ever is a long ester. Either get on PCT or continue as you investigate the gear.

Some gear crystalizes Post injection. Or at least I have had a problem one time. Is this stuff a blend. There are some other medicating factors here, or might be.

You are doing the right thing w/1-1/2". Also bullshit on not using someone to pin. I do it myself, I have my wife do it and sometimes when I'm running and have some issues with my a$$ I have a friend who is QUICK with his stab. He can do better than my wife or myself. I & we find a spot that is not sore and hit it. Change area.

When I do Prop I do shoulders with a 25G 5/8" because I an\m an ecto and it works. I try to keep my shoulders to 1/2cc and do both , etc... However I can pin myself but it goes good to use another person the knows how from time to time.

There are no absolutes here. Pinning is a personal event and such it is a thing to be worker out if a problem ensues. ...crazy mike

Bs on your bs. His wife refuses to pin him he made no mention of doing it himself. So now what. That's why I said you should be able to do it yourself not that I was opposed someone doing it for you but not to rely on them. Like what went on here.

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 10:39 AM

11 days

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

I assume you know how to pin yourself should some one to be able to help you

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Bs on your bs. His wife refuses to pin him he made no mention of doing it himself. So now what. That's why I said you should be able to do it yourself not that I was opposed someone doing it for you but not to rely on them. Like what went on here.

WTF is up you a$$ man. Here you are tell me BS. I had said it's OK to have others, I said I do myself, I never told him that he need not learn. Don't ever come out here and tell me my straight experience talk is BS.

With all my experience with self injecting IV, and IM I certainly know what the Fvck is going on. I'll ask you to quote where I came out with BULLSHIT. ...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 10:43 AM

OP you still haven't told me what exactly you are pinning. Will you tell me that. ...crazy mike

**JWP806** · 09-08-2013, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

OP you still haven't told me what exactly you are pinning. Will you tell me that. ...crazy mike

His first sentence in his OP says test e...

**Fcastle357** · 09-08-2013, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

WTF is up you a$$ man. Here you are tell me BS. I had said it's OK to have others, I said I do myself, I never told him that he need not learn. Don't ever come out here and tell me my straight experience talk is BS.

With all my experience with self injecting IV, and IM I certainly know what the Fvck is going on. I'll ask you to quote where I came out with BULLSHIT. ...crazy mike

I was suggesting to the op that he pin himself and rely on himself. You called that bullshit how the hell is that suggestion bullshit. If he is having trouble with his cycle and he's not injecting himself how is he going to know for sure whats going on. Maybe I took to much offense to the bullshit statement. I think it's fine to have people who know what's going on to help just made me wonder how many I Ms his wife has givin.

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by JWP806

His first sentence in his OP says test e...

I appreciate the help but I also asked him what he was pinning, like a blend, if so what blend, what are the esters , what lab. As I said there are other factors that can be causeing the problem. Thanks. ...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

I was suggesting to the op that he pin himself and rely on himself. You called that bullshit how the hell is that suggestion bullshit. If he is having trouble with his cycle and he's not injecting himself how is he going to know for sure whats going on. Maybe I took to much offense to the bullshit statement. I think it's fine to have people who know what's going on to help just made me wonder how many I Ms his wife has givin.

You did as I do/did. But re-read my post. AND I'll leave it at that. It's good to have others able to pin. If it's you a$$ they can see and adjust. But now this is moot, what we talk of.
I've helped people and they have helped me no mater how many times I've pined or Main Lined in my past. You've been on board how many post and how may years of this and to start a post tell me and this forum I speak BULLSHIT you out of line. Thanks ...crazy mike

**Hazard** · 09-08-2013, 11:07 AM

To the op.....

How long does the injection take? What size pin are you using? An injection should be fairly slow.....

Have you shot anywhere other than glutes?

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I appreciate the help but I also asked him what he was pinning, like a blend, if so what blend, what are the esters , what lab. As I said there are other factors that can be causeing the problem. Thanks. ...crazy mike

Hello

Originally Posted by Hazard

To the op.....

How long does the injection take? What size pin are you using? An injection should be fairly slow.....

Have you shot anywhere other than glutes?

And ^^^ this ??? ...cm

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 11:55 AM

I have pinned myself, shoulders and quads but I find the PIP affects my workouts, when my wife pins my glutes theres no problem no pain, shit sometimes I dont even realize she pinned me yet so thats why I prefer her to do it. Anyhow its been fine and shes cool with it so why not?

I pin with 1 1/2 , 23g. 1ml of test e 300.

Ya know what Im starting to lead towards the idea that maybe we used the 1" needle in the glutes by mistake which caused it to not go far enough.

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 11:58 AM

Usually takes about 45 sec to a minute to finish.

And also this stuff came from a new source I found in town, may just go back to ordering my stuff.

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 12:02 PM

In regards to bumps never had them in the quads or shoulders but I have had them in my glutes. Just a small little bump from time to time no biggie. But this last time my ass got a huge lump, you could see it through my boxers, like having a cellphone stuck in a pocket under my skin.

**MajorPectorial** · 09-08-2013, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

I have pinned myself, shoulders and quads but I find the PIP affects my workouts, when my wife pins my glutes theres no problem no pain, shit sometimes I dont even realize she pinned me yet so thats why I prefer her to do it. Anyhow its been fine and shes cool with it so why not?

I pin with 1 1/2 , 23g. 1ml of test e 300.

Ya know what Im starting to lead towards the idea that maybe we used the 1" needle in the glutes by mistake which caused it to not go far enough.

I've used 1 + 1 1/2 inch in glutes. Delts. Bicep. Quads. Tbh. Only time I've had anything close to a bad pip is when I've bought ugl. Which would push me towards maybe not totally pristine manufacturing and sterilization techniques. If u got a autoclave or at worst pressure cooker then I'd run it through that for an hour.
Edit:*added*( thought I'd add that I always do 2ml in each inj. Test e250 as my base and currently with tren a. The latter having an immediate ache that dissipates within hours due to the ester attached. Test e gives me zero problems. But I know exactly what's in it. What's been done with it n that its entirely sterilized)

As to starting pct/stopping cycle or carrying on. Test e's half life is long enough to not be toooooo concerned. Its not perfect. But it certainly ain't the end. If you'd had prop on hand ud have suggested doing a small front load along side the test e to push u back on track.
Or simply restart on the test e n add a couple weeks.

Crazy mike could probably give u a better idea as to the best way to go about this as never had this problem and ensure I have anything I need on hand 24/7,

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

I have pinned myself, shoulders and quads but I find the PIP affects my workouts, when my wife pins my glutes theres no problem no pain, shit sometimes I dont even realize she pinned me yet so thats why I prefer her to do it. Anyhow its been fine and shes cool with it so why not?

I pin with 1 1/2 , 23g. 1ml of test e 300.

Ya know what Im starting to lead towards the idea that maybe we used the 1" needle in the glutes by mistake which caused it to not go far enough.

That is probably not it. But deeper the better. But as I said so many things can attribute to PIP. Also you need to stay in the correct quadrant in your a$$.

After 11 days there is NO need to stop and regroup. As I said 5 week get on with it. Find the delts and inject a smaller amount and do the other to finish there are many things to do other than stop after all the gear at 5 weeks and your body just kicking in. For the record you DO PIN, and have PINNED YOURSELF and know how to.
BULLSHIT...??? Fcastle ?
OK OP so you are not using a blend? You just have to know that for me and my many years of experience PIP comes with the territory. Sometime it is what it is, so we figure it out and adjust. NO need to stop ! ...crazy mike

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 12:14 PM

I didnt stop the cycle just because my wife said she wouldnt pin me anymore I stopped cuz I didnt want another lump caused by bad gear.

**MajorPectorial** · 09-08-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

I didnt stop the cycle just because my wife said she wouldnt pin me anymore I stopped cuz I didnt want another lump caused by bad gear.

More chance this than the pin or even really the area tbh. Test e only aches in a virgin bicep similar to a good workout

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

I didnt stop the cycle just because my wife said she wouldnt pin me anymore I stopped cuz I didnt want another lump caused by bad gear.

I didn't get if you tried heating it before you injected. Have you tried the gear in half dose somewhere else. ?? There are a few experiments to try. But If you feel you should then you should do what you want and feel good about it. Good luck man...crazy mike

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 12:35 PM

I didn't heat it up, never had to, no pain whatsoever this cycle until the huge lump.

I did half doses my 1st cycle. May try doing that again.

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

I didn't heat it up, never had to, no pain whatsoever this cycle until the huge lump.

I did half doses my 1st cycle. May try doing that again.

I suggest to keep going and try other things as we talked about. AS was said your ester is still alive, more important your body is still working it and will start at 5 week instead of all over again on another cycle. Luck to ya. ...crazy mike

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 12:54 PM

Thanks for the help guys, ya in regards to the stuff, its def legit. Its kicking in good right now. My weights up I look better than ever and ****ing twice a day so I really didnt want to quit now, I feel like it just really got started.

Im going to try and heat this up and pin again in a bit. Ill tell you guys in a few days how it goes.

**gymjunkie30** · 09-08-2013, 12:55 PM

But if I get a lump like last time im throwing this crap away.

**crazy mike** · 09-08-2013, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

Thanks for the help guys, ya in regards to the stuff, its def legit. Its kicking in good right now. My weights up I look better than ever and ****ing twice a day so I really didnt want to quit now, I feel like it just really got started.

Im going to try and heat this up and pin again in a bit. Ill tell you guys in a few days how it goes.

Originally Posted by gymjunkie30

But if I get a lump like last time im throwing this crap away.

Cool if you can get some more gear and keep it going. As I said and you agree this is just kicking in good. Test E with me takes 5 weeks for good benefits to start. ...crazy mike

**JinNtonic** · 09-08-2013, 06:10 PM

11 days... I would probably keep going. But you gear sounds dirty.

**gymjunkie30** · 09-13-2013, 09:51 PM

Just wanted to update ive done 2 pins again since the bump and everything seems back to normal. No huge lump. The injection site a tiny bit hard but no pain. Also that was the last of that vial and now im going to get Into my new vial of the same stuff.