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    "Recovery" Times after Running HCG + AI during 16-20 week cycle

    Just curious to note the recovery times for those who ran a 16-20 cycle. What is everyone experiences? Assume constant HCG use and AI throughout length of cycle and no 19-nors toward the end of cycle

    I'm starting my 2nd week of PCT and I can still hit my 1 rep squat max. Turned my volume wayyyyy down however because I can feel myself tire a lot faster. Water weight is gone thank god. Mood is stable - don't notice it. No lethargy. I feel calm.

    Sperm is thicker but less volume now during PCT.
    Sperm was slightly more voluminous but thinner, more watery consistency during cycle.

    Libido is noticeably lower. In my mind I want to ****, but my body is like lets do work on the computer and not look at porn.
    Erections are more mellow, but not a problem. I am just not walking with raging wood (normal state).

    For my PCT I'm taking:
    Clomid 100 100 75 50 50 25
    Nolva 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
    Ipamorelin and mod Grf 3x 100mcg daily
    Vitamin D - 15000iu daily.
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    What was your cycle?

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    Test Prop and Anavar

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSumma
    Test Prop and Anavar
    Dosages?

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    Recovery is different for everyone but after being in that long done crash is probably going to happen. Maybe not till 4 weeks or so. The hcg ran during will help a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Recovery is different for everyone but after being in that long done crash is probably going to happen. Maybe not till 4 weeks or so. The hcg ran during will help a lot
    Interesting. From my research it seems as if during pct Lh and fsh rise faster than test levels. Lh and fsh isnt the issue, it's lagging testosterone that presents a problem and causes a crash.

    if you leydig cell atrophy has been avoided through hcg , why would a crash happen at all if lh and fsh begin to fire up in week 2 and 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSumma

    Interesting. From my research it seems as if during pct Lh and fsh rise faster than test levels. Lh and fsh isnt the issue, it's lagging testosterone that presents a problem and causes a crash.

    if you leydig cell atrophy has been avoided through hcg, why would a crash happen at all if lh and fsh begin to fire up in week 2 and 3?
    You are correct lh production is noted to be the fastest thing to recover. It just depends on how fast your lh recovers and the testies respond. This is exactly why I recommend running hcg during any cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    You are correct lh production is noted to be the fastest thing to recover. It just depends on how fast your lh recovers and the testies respond. This is exactly why I recommend running hcg during any cycle
    Ah got it okay. makes sense. Thanks Jim

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