Rate my cycle fellas, thanks a bunch!

**Budly69** · 09-17-2013, 10:21 AM

Week 1-16 Monday and Friday-250mg Test E and 200mg Tren E (Enduratren)
Week 8-16 50mg Winstrol ED
Week 1-16 32 mcg T3 morning and night
Week 1-16 .5mg ADex EOD

PCT will be the usual hcg and Nolva routine, will also be cycling 50 mg of clen in there at two week intervals.

Questions/comments?

Edit: 6'7, 250 lbs, roughly 15% bf (havent been measured in awhile). This will be my 5th cycle, never done Tren E before but never had an issue with Tren A what so ever so Im not too worried about any possible side. Any and all feedback will be much appreciated.

**ironbeck** · 09-17-2013, 10:25 AM

Not bad, I wouldn't run winni for 8 weeks though its very toxic! 6weeks max. 4 weeks is even better.

**redz** · 09-17-2013, 10:26 AM

Hcg should be ran on cycle not during pct. I would also suggest you pick up some clomid too add to your pct.

**Budly69** · 09-17-2013, 10:29 AM

Wouldnt running Clomid and Nolva during PCT be kind of unnecessary? Ive never had any issues with just Nolva and Ive read Clomid can fuk with a persons state of mind.

Also if running Winni at 4 weeks is optimal would it be possible to run it for weeks 1-4 and weeks 9-12? It seems to be real effective for what I want to do.

**bass** · 09-17-2013, 10:30 AM

add NAC to protect liver, and yes as Redz said, hCG during the cycle.

**austinite** · 09-17-2013, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Budly69

Week 1-16 Monday and Friday-250mg Test E and 200mg Tren E (Enduratren)
Week 8-16 50mg Winstrol ED
Week 1-16 32 mcg T3 morning and night
Week 1-16 .5mg ADex EOD

PCT will be the usual hcg and Nolva routine, will also be cycling 50 mg of clen in there at two week intervals.

Questions/comments?

Edit: 6'7, 250 lbs, roughly 15% bf (havent been measured in awhile). This will be my 5th cycle, never done Tren E before but never had an issue with Tren A what so ever so Im not too worried about any possible side. Any and all feedback will be much appreciated.

1. Why 16 weeks? Cholesterol and liver will hate you.
2. Unless you get down under 12 % BF, forget winny, wasting time there.
3. There's no need to split T3 dose.
4. Unless you have experience, 0.5 Adex EOD is excessive for 250mg of Test.
5. hCG on cycle. Not post cycle. Why use hCG during recovery? Doesn't make sense.
6. PCT should include both Nolva and Clomid.
7. Why no liver protection?? NAC @ 600mg daily. For life.

Good luck...

**Budly69** · 09-17-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

1. Why 16 weeks? Cholesterol and liver will hate you.
2. Unless you get down under 12 % BF, forget winny, wasting time there.
3. There's no need to split T3 dose.
4. Unless you have experience, 0.5 Adex EOD is excessive for 250mg of Test.
5. hCG on cycle. Not post cycle. Why use hCG during recovery? Doesn't make sense.
6. PCT should include both Nolva and Clomid.
7. Why no liver protection?? NAC @ 600mg daily. For life.

Good luck...

1. 16 weeks seemed like a good length after I split the difference between extremes. The longest cycles I read about were 24 and the shortest were usually around 8.

2. Noted

3. Noted

4. 0.5 Adex EOD is what is recommended on the home site and also what I ran last cycle. Didn't seem to have any problems but was also under the assumption the Adex was more a precautionary addition due to the Tren rather than the Test. I know 500 mg Test isnt much but I figured coupled with 400 mg Tren it would be a decent stack. I wouldnt mind upping the doseage but Ive little experience with long esters.

5. hCG for PCT is also suggested on the home site so I rolled with it.

6. In what manner do you suggest dosing/mixing Nolva and Clomid when used at the same time and what are the benefits of stacking Nolva and Clomid during PCT?

7. Noted

**hankdiesel** · 09-17-2013, 12:11 PM

drop the winny, cut the tren length to 10, and test dose to 12

**austinite** · 09-17-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Budly69

1. 16 weeks seemed like a good length after I split the difference between extremes. The longest cycles I read about were 24 and the shortest were usually around 8.

2. Noted

3. Noted

4. 0.5 Adex EOD is what is recommended on the home site and also what I ran last cycle. Didn't seem to have any problems but was also under the assumption the Adex was more a precautionary addition due to the Tren rather than the Test. I know 500 mg Test isnt much but I figured coupled with 400 mg Tren it would be a decent stack. I wouldnt mind upping the doseage but Ive little experience with long esters.

5. hCG for PCT is also suggested on the home site so I rolled with it.

6. In what manner do you suggest dosing/mixing Nolva and Clomid when used at the same time and what are the benefits of stacking Nolva and Clomid during PCT?

7. Noted

4. Don't go by recommendations, Go by blood work. Not all humans are made equal.
5. Old info and needs updating. hCG is suppressive. Read this...
6. Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolva @ 40/20/20/20/20 - Read this to see why you need both...