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    High dose test VS low test high deca

    What would you guys prefer? I am kind of interested to run a test and deca cycle like 350 test 600+ deca. Or just a higher dose test cycle around 800-1000 a week.

    Either way I will be lean bulking like always. I have always controlled my e2 on nandrolone and never had any issues. I do have some caber on hand but I have never needed it. My thoughts are lower test will be easier to keep e2 and sides down so the nandrolone can do its job.

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    I always run deca higher. You hit the nail on the head with the reason: Easier to manage e2 thus progestin sides are less cumbersome. At the end of the day, it's all about what works best for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    I always run deca higher. You hit the nail on the head with the reason: Easier to manage e2 thus progestin sides are less cumbersome. At the end of the day, it's all about what works best for you.
    Yup. I love deca and I seem to do really good with it. Plus I feel good when I am on it, unlike other compounds. I am sure I will run both proposed cycles in due time. Just got to pick one for the next rodeo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    I always run deca higher. You hit the nail on the head with the reason: Easier to manage e2 thus progestin sides are less cumbersome. At the end of the day, it's all about what works best for you.


    What's the highest you ran deca to test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    What's the highest you ran deca to test?
    750mg. once. 600mg is my max today. Always 100mg test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    750mg. once. 600mg is my max today. Always 100mg test.
    So say 350mgs test and 600mgs of deca would yield great results?

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    ^ Yeah, all things on point. Certainly. Deca is a great builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    ^ Yeah, all things on point. Certainly. Deca is a great builder.

    I'm ordering soon. Lol, still can't decide my doses. Like a little kid in a candy store...

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    I'm ordering soon. Lol, still can't decide my doses. Like a little kid in a candy store...
    You're gonna get fat. I'm gonna point and laugh at you.
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    For me I use 600mg Dbol always Dbol anything less for me is point less do different with my Test dose. ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    For me I use 600mg Dbol always Dbol anything less for me is point less do different with my Test dose. ...crazy mike
    Typo, I assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    750mg. once. 600mg is my max today. Always 100mg test.
    See that's exactly what I was thinking. But test a little higher. I love test but it might time to experiment

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    First time with deca ? 600mg is kinda high isn't it, Austinite? Wouldn't a lower dose like 300mg be more appropriate? Not debating, simply asking.

    I can vouch for the theory of low test/high deca, tren , eq, etc.... Works great, and minimizes the side effects of the other drug. Try giving it a go, you'll like it.


    edit - just realized tdoe11 has used deca before, my bad....
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    Quote Originally Posted by widescreen View Post
    First time with deca ? 600mg is kinda high isn't it, Austinite? Wouldn't a lower dose like 300mg be more appropriate? Not debating, simply asking.

    I can vouch for the theory of low test/high deca, tren, eq, etc.... Works great, and minimizes the side effects of the other drug. Try giving it a go, you'll like it.
    Generally yes, but tdoe has a good head on his shoulders, he can manage.
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    I always run my test base high. Test loves me. I love test. Perfect. I don't run anything nearly as high as the test. deca 5-700 is optimal according to studies that I have read and in my own experience. I've gone 900 deca with 1.5g test/wk but I didn't see any difference between 900 and 600. Maybe a little but not worth the added sides and expense. Tren seems to be optimal for me at 700. Always with higher test though. My test bases are 1g to 2g these days depending on what my goals are regardless of other compounds I'm adding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    You're gonna get fat. I'm gonna point and laugh at you.
    Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Generally yes, but tdoe has a good head on his shoulders, he can manage.

    Thanks!

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    I've always run TEST to DECA at a 1:1 ratio and had great results (e.g., 500/500 EW). I wanted to avoid the dreaded Deca-dick at all costs!

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    Thanks for the replies everyone

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    mixed reviews it seems. Ive never ran deca before. So it is in fact safe to say a first time user could do 300mg/week test and 600mg/ week deca? I have always been scared to use Tren and Deca because I have heard they are harsh compounds. Especially tren. I sure do not want "decadick" either. I know from reading managing your E2 is key to this.

    If you decide to run it TDOE11, will you lay out your cycle plan so I can use it as a guideline if I ever do the deca?

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    I'm in the low test boat.

    I am planning a deca run next. First time for deca for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    750mg. once. 600mg is my max today. Always 100mg test.
    Run test at 100 per week? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadcuz1985
    mixed reviews it seems. Ive never ran deca before. So it is in fact safe to say a first time user could do 300mg/week test and 600mg/ week deca? I have always been scared to use Tren and Deca because I have heard they are harsh compounds. Especially tren. I sure do not want "decadick" either. I know from reading managing your E2 is key to this. If you decide to run it TDOE11, will you lay out your cycle plan so I can use it as a guideline if I ever do the deca?
    For sure man. I personally haven't ran tren . I have a terrible time sleeping naturally, always been a problem for me. So i don't want to make that worse in any way. Deca though IMO is awesome. The only sides I get are weight and strength gain. Got to love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadcuz1985 View Post
    mixed reviews it seems. Ive never ran deca before. So it is in fact safe to say a first time user could do 300mg/week test and 600mg/ week deca? I have always been scared to use Tren and Deca because I have heard they are harsh compounds. Especially tren. I sure do not want "decadick" either. I know from reading managing your E2 is key to this.

    If you decide to run it TDOE11, will you lay out your cycle plan so I can use it as a guideline if I ever do the deca?
    I agree with Tren being harsh - you shouldn't even consider this unless you have a few cycles under your belt.
    As far as DECA being harsh, I have to respectfully disagree there. I find DECA to be a very tolerable and even enjoyable AAS in a cycle. I love the way it makes me feel, and it seems to add some lubrication effect to overtaxed joints. Progesterone can be an issue if you do high dosages but even that is managable. Make sure you have some AI and caber on hand, and DECA is an awesome in a stack even for first time cycles. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaxist View Post
    I agree with Tren being harsh - you shouldn't even consider this unless you have a few cycles under your belt.
    As far as DECA being harsh, I have to respectfully disagree there. I find DECA to be a very tolerable and even enjoyable AAS in a cycle. I love the way it makes me feel, and it seems to add some lubrication effect to overtaxed joints. Progesterone can be an issue if you do high dosages but even that is managable. Make sure you have some AI and caber on hand, and DECA is an awesome stack even for first time cycles. Good luck.
    hey thanks I should have made myself more clear on deca being harsh, I know it will shut you down quick and for a long time. That's really all I meant about it. Yeah ive also heard it relieves joint pain, which I need badly. I personally wouldn't run it first time though.

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    We can't really generalize what's harsh and what's not. Some folks can't even handle anavar . Too individualistic and a matter of experience only. Yall would be agreeing to disagree all day.
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    Austin I have never disagreed with anyone...lol j/k bud.

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