new here, please read, need advise, 28m,220lbs, 21% body fat, new cycle

[new.in.the.game]

hi everyone, thanks for taking the time to read my post, its greatly appreciated... am from south florida, 28 male, 220 lbs, 21% body fat, just started my first cycle 2 weeks ago and this is what am taking. well let me start by saying that I came from losing a lot of weight. I used to weigh 300 lbs about 2 years ago with a body fat of 35% now down to 21%. never did weights before and started about 2 months ago but just started taking some juice 2 weeks ago. I met a friend at my local gym who gave me his advise and got me the stuff, hes in great shape 4.5% body fat and he competes in body building, not that it matters just figure I mention it, I just want to get other peoples advise on what am taking and if what am doing is correct or incorrect. ok so, am on my third week of my 1st cycle and am taking every other day 1cc of 3 different kind of steroids . am taking trenbolone acetate 100mg/ml, testosterone enanthate 250mg/ml, winstrol 100mg/ml. Mondays, Wednesday and Saturday is the days I take them. according to my math they are suppose to last me 10 shots a total of 3weeks and one extra day... I started at 220lbs and am at 225lbs and dropped 2% body fat. am watching my diet and eating low carbs and chicken and salad.. I notice a difference in my upper body appearance and bigger traps and shoulders and arms. my questions to you guys is should I repeat the same cycle with the same dose? do 8 weeks of what am currently doing? should I change my dosage to achieved more fat burning? am I taking to much or too little? is the combination of things am taking ok? am I taking the right stuff for a heavy guy like me trying to shrink in fat and build muscle at the same time? sorry for all the rookie questions but I just want to double check that what am taking and what my gym buddy is giving me and telling me to take is correct for what am trying to do. am just trying to cut fat and get down to like 13 0r 14 % body fat. I don't care about the scale number anymore I used to want to get down to 190 but I gave up on that am a big guy and I gave up on trying to make it to that number I needed to start lifting weights becuz I am starting to have extra skin building up so I decided to hit the weight s and now I got myself into this steroids deal. I don't feel no side effects of any kind. no acne anywhere, no man boobs, my balls and penis is ok, am more horny than ever, ummm I guess everything is fine so far.. I feel stronger everyday that I hit the gym, I go about 4 times a week, I do cardio before I hit the weights for 30 mins.. my diet is not the best as far as eating more often and taking more protein, I go long periods without eating and I heard that's bad. any diet tips guys? any ways am gonna stop here to see if anyone will answer tonight, I thank you guys again and hope to hear something soon.... thanks

[OnTheSauce]

So after two weeks of weight training.... You think you need steroids . And not only that, but need to stack three of them?

[redz]

You should not be cycling, that is an awful cycle also.

[spiralkut]

how can we help someone that wont help themselves

[MuscleInk]

Agreed. Get a solid two years in the gym to give your connective tissue time to strengthen before you do serious damage.

[Deltaviking]

Your body fat % is too high and you've been lifting for two months and you have done little to no research or else you never would have considered this cycle. Hang out in the diet section and try AAS in about two years of research,training and dieting

[Deltaviking]

Not meant to flame, but seriously. Quit now and run pct,and start doing some serious research here, there are plenty of guys who will help you out. I know you'll probably ignore me telling you to quit so at least do this. Cut out the tren and winstrol . Run test at 500mg/wk for 10 weeks. Get on a strict diet; find someone on here who is good with that. Do you at least have an ai, or pct plan man?

[new.in.the.game]

hey uys, I know I was gonna get hit hard by u more experienced guys, I have done some research maybe not enuff to u guys standards. as far as am concerned I see a lot of ppl do follow this combination of gear when they want to cut fat and build muscle, Idk which guy said that this is an awful stack. but u maybe be right to some extense. as far as an ai or pct plan. I do not have one. can you please explain this more and educate me on it? I don't feel no side effects at all and am on my third week. I did ask him about taking something if I feel side effects and he said he will have me arimidex ready if I need it, but to let him know if I see any unusual changes in my body.. hey guys u guys are a lot more experienced than me and its easy for you guys to say just quit and do more research but I have and am tired of being heavy and not have a good appearance am working really hard everyday, working out twice a day and hitting the gym hard. I will do more research trust me and if I feel anything weird in the next days coming up I will quit everything and postpone til further notice but for now I feel good and stronger everyday , so as far as am concerned its working. once again I appreciate every single one of you guys opinion and I will keep waiting for more responses and read them all. I am injecting properly I read the injecting thread and have been following that perfect, what else? thanks guys...

[spiralkut]

ill tell you exactly whats wrong with this stack "I did ask him about taking something if I feel side effects and he said he will have me arimidex ready if I need it" thats a quote from what you said. Adex will stop gyno which is only 1 of about 50 side effects, tell me what your going to do when you start getting other side effects and have no idea whats causing them?

[Deltaviking]

We've all been in your position and the most important thing you can do is listen. Your success with AAS will be based on your diet and training. You need to practice both of these and keep them up for an extended period of time at least a couple of years. What you are doing could seriously hurt you. AAS isn't a joke and you can't just dive in without a plan. You don't even know what pct is and without it you'll end up being worse off than you are now. Also, you need time in the gym before juicing so you can have a base to build on, you will end up hurting yourself at the gym. Go through the whole forum and read all the stickys (the thread that say IMPORTANT in red letters and you can learn a lot. I'm just trying to keep you from killing your bodies natural test and being on low t therapy for life

[Deltaviking]

Your choice of steroids isn't good either. First cycle should be only test. Tren is way out of your league right now and I doubt you know how strong it is and the doses are wrong. But it probably doesn't matter, based on how much your buddy has shown he cares about you the gear is probably fake

[redz]

The guy has you on a ton of gear because he sold it to you. Taking that much test with high bf% is a perfect recipe for bitch tits. You won`t get the results you want because you know nothing about training and diet.

[Deltaviking]

I'm pretty sure one of the beginning sticky's states you shouldn't consider AAS if your above 15%... But what's the point in having stickys when no one bothers to take the time to read them. You've been majorly misinformed so i do t blame you for how stupid this cycle is

[JackedJesse]

I also concur with Delta, stop now and start a PCT. Do more research on the drugs, but first you need to know the basics of training, diet, and proper recovery. Then prove to yourself that youve put those into affect efficiently. You cant treat steroids like a supplement you buy at GNC. You need to know the short and long term effects of the drugs on your body and hormones. You need to know that you could possibly never come back to homeostasis and that you might have to inject testosterone every week for the rest of your life. If you know you dont want to risk that, then dont touch it. Do more research immediately on a proper PCT, and get the right drugs for it.

[qscgugcsq]

OP, people like you are the reason why steroids have bad reputation...

not willing to do effort or take time to educate yourself.

you lost 80 pounds in two years wtf do you want more!

you want result fast? so you are ready to **** your health to reach something that you think will be faster?

if you have no idea of what you are doing any result youll get from steroids will lead to desaster.
muscle youll gain will get away, fat you loss will come back and more.
you will feel like shit and be a shit.

you think you can simply do a cycle without any effort and expect to success, youll be goddamn disapointed.

congrats on your fat loss.
shame on your stupidity.

steroids arent magic, they are powerfull drug that may be harmfull into wrong hands.
and your hand have no idea how to manipule them.

I still wish you good luck, but you are looking right into trouble...

[new.in.the.game]

ok guys I have decided to stop this cycle after doing more research and taking u guys advise. my bf is to high to do this and I need to have a more solid foundation to start a cycle like this. thank you guys for the info and advise I really appreciate it. my question is now that am 3 weeks into my first ever cycle, what should I do for PCT? like I said before I did 750mg of test E, 300mg of tren and 300mg of winny every week for now 3 weeks total, now that am stopping this due to ur advises and for my own good and health, do you guys think I need to PCT right away of when should I, if I do at all? what do you guys recommend? brand? dosage? or do you think I will be ok since I am cutting this cycle short and quiting before I hurt myself any further? am just gonna keep hitting the gym hard and eat right I guess for the next couple years and get my bf low the natural way. but I am now seriously concerned in recoving correct after this 3 weeks of gear I shud of not taken. I don't want any complications at all, I feel fine now and have no side effects but my question is, am I going to have any effects after just 3weeks of gear use and the dosage I was taking? if so once again what do you guys who are experience recommend for me to take? just want for my body to response like it is and always have been, my test levels back to normal and no issues at all. remember am 223lbs now, 20 bf, 28 yoa... once again thank you guys for everything, you guys pretty much safed me from disaster and even death at the pace that I was heading... I read a lot of the stickys and I realized a lot of what I am dong is wrong and scary to know, but we all make mistakes and at least I listen and learn and made the correct choice to stop now before is to late.... god bless you all and thanks for everything I will be checking this post frecuently to see if any of you guys response to me and recoomend anything to what I am asking for..... ty guys

[qscgugcsq]

ok guys I have decided to stop this cycle after doing more research and taking u guys advise. my bf is to high to do this and I need to have a more solid foundation to start a cycle like this. thank you guys for the info and advise I really appreciate it. my question is now that am 3 weeks into my first ever cycle, what should I do for PCT? like I said before I did 750mg of test E, 300mg of tren and 300mg of winny every week for now 3 weeks total, now that am stopping this due to ur advises and for my own good and health, do you guys think I need to PCT right away of when should I, if I do at all? what do you guys recommend? brand? dosage? or do you think I will be ok since I am cutting this cycle short and quiting before I hurt myself any further? am just gonna keep hitting the gym hard and eat right I guess for the next couple years and get my bf low the natural way. but I am now seriously concerned in recoving correct after this 3 weeks of gear I shud of not taken. I don't want any complications at all, I feel fine now and have no side effects but my question is, am I going to have any effects after just 3weeks of gear use and the dosage I was taking? if so once again what do you guys who are experience recommend for me to take? just want for my body to response like it is and always have been, my test levels back to normal and no issues at all. remember am 223lbs now, 20 bf, 28 yoa... once again thank you guys for everything, you guys pretty much safed me from disaster and even death at the pace that I was heading... I read a lot of the stickys and I realized a lot of what I am dong is wrong and scary to know, but we all make mistakes and at least I listen and learn and made the correct choice to stop now before is to late.... god bless you all and thanks for everything I will be checking this post frecuently to see if any of you guys response to me and recoomend anything to what I am asking for..... ty guys

thats the right decision you did there.

you need a pct.

go on ar-r .com(the banner at the top)
order some clomid(liquid clomid) and nolvadex (liquid tamox). im not sure of the exact name they gave them.

ar-r is a really good. they will send you this within a week if you located in USA. in canada I receive it within 10 business day. they are great.

wait 3 weeks after last shot.

nolvadex 40mg/20/20/20/20
clomid 100mg/50/50/50

after 3 weeks you are supress but you may recover pretty well.

BW will greatly help you.
you should test progesterone/estrogen.

if you progesterone is high get some pramipexol .25mg/before bed(ar-r carry it too)

if estrogen is high aromasin (exesmetane) will lower it and help your recover.

BW must be done either way.

good luck, be safe