do you guys think most athletes cycle ..??

**pasha** · 09-26-2013, 02:12 PM

hey do you guys think that most athletes in like the olympics or in many other sports cycle or do they pretty much stay using gear the whole year...? this goes for fitness models as well..?? i am convinced that a lot (most) of athletes and fitness models or whatever use steroids .. just wondering if they cycle or pretty much stay on gear for long extended periods at a time?

**Bio-Active** · 09-26-2013, 02:19 PM

Lounge material

**bass** · 09-26-2013, 03:16 PM

if they stay whole year around they'll probably die from some sort of organ failure. of course they cycle.

**Cuz** · 09-26-2013, 04:34 PM

top level pro BBs stay on year around, usually drop to around 500mg a week est. Other athletes just cycle, kinda like us.

**brazuka** · 09-26-2013, 04:35 PM

How about NPC's going for their pro cards? Be honest guys because in my gym I am surrounded by NPC's and I can't tell if they ever come off or not...

**austinite** · 09-26-2013, 04:37 PM

They only test for diuretics, not AAS.

**OnTheSauce** · 09-26-2013, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by brazuka

How about NPC's going for their pro cards? Be honest guys because in my gym I am surrounded by NPC's and I can't tell if they ever come off or not...

Depends completely on the individual. Some know what they are doing, others dont

**brazuka** · 09-26-2013, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by OnTheSauce

Depends completely on the individual. Some know what they are doing, others dont

So for the guys who do know what they are doing, do they come off completely to let their bodies somewhat recover? Or do they stay on a low dose test cruise and then when they are ready for contest prep they crank up the drugs and dosages? Just curious on how these guys do things really.

Also I see a lot of guys doing a contest, then in another 14 weeks or whatever there is another contest etc, so I'm assuming they wouldn't come off right? Maybe just lower the dosages for a bit then crank it right back up? I want to know how this underground world of competing works!

**nafnlaus** · 09-26-2013, 04:56 PM

everyone who is competing to win in the olympics is using all year round. I know people who would make the minimum naturally but they stand no chance against those who are there to win.

Design drugs, lots of growth hormone , insulin and forbidden techniques and methods are used to win.

**spiralkut** · 09-26-2013, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by nafnlaus

everyone who is competing to win in the olympics is using all year round. I know people who would make the minimum naturally but they stand no chance against those who are there to win.

Design drugs, lots of growth hormone, insulin and forbidden techniques and methods are used to win.

Which sports are you talking? Surely the olympics are tested.

Also for fitness models in Aus, i know if you list yourself as Natural then some of the magazines actually test you.

**Cuz** · 09-26-2013, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by brazuka

How about NPC's going for their pro cards? Be honest guys because in my gym I am surrounded by NPC's and I can't tell if they ever come off or not...

wow, that many huh?

**brazuka** · 09-26-2013, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by chadcuz1985

wow, that many huh?

Maybe not that many lol but I would say every time I step into the gym there are at the very least 8-10 people who compete there (most go in groups of two or more)

**Bert** · 09-26-2013, 09:25 PM

At my gym, very few don't.

**OnTheSauce** · 09-27-2013, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by brazuka

So for the guys who do know what they are doing, do they come off completely to let their bodies somewhat recover? Or do they stay on a low dose test cruise and then when they are ready for contest prep they crank up the drugs and dosages? Just curious on how these guys do things really. Also I see a lot of guys doing a contest, then in another 14 weeks or whatever there is another contest etc, so I'm assuming they wouldn't come off right? Maybe just lower the dosages for a bit then crank it right back up? I want to know how this underground world of competing works!

I can only speak for the guys I know. Some blast n cruise. Other comes off for 8 weeks completely. But still uses hgh and slin. He can maintain 235-240 lean and is only 5'7. He also competes at heavyweight so until he secures that pro card he isn't going into the super heavies. He will probably get it at nationals this year

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-27-2013, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by spiralkut

Which sports are you talking? Surely the olympics are tested.

Also for fitness models in Aus, i know if you list yourself as Natural then some of the magazines actually test you.

The way the Olympics do their drug testing is they allow 2 missed tests in any 18 month period. So after 2 missed tests, you can't miss any more tests until the first missed test lapses. Well this is what Victor Conte said.

So it's rather easy for athletes to run cycles.

**nafnlaus** · 09-27-2013, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by spiralkut

Which sports are you talking? Surely the olympics are tested.

Also for fitness models in Aus, i know if you list yourself as Natural then some of the magazines actually test you.

all sports, you really think professional athletes dont use PEDs?

it doesnt matter how or how often they test you, it limits your arsenal of drugs but it doesnt stop anyone.
A missed drug test can be sorted as a failed one, if you are not at the place you said you would be then you get a warning. Miss it twice or more often - you fail.

recently a weightlifter received a ban for methylhexanamine, it is found in illegal pre workouts such as Jackd3d... Thats a four years ban. still rather funny, his anabolic drugs were not detected