Super Cutting Cycle! (Test/Tren/Mast/Winnyl/Clen/T3)

**mb10** · 10-04-2013, 03:55 AM

Hey guys! I'm a few weeks off from my 3rd cycle and wanted to get some input. Here's everything! (Having to split up the post because of newbie spam filter)

Cycle 3
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Week 1-10 Test/Tren /Mast 50mg ED (Andromix)
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Week 10-12 Test Prop 100mg ED
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Week 1-6 Winstrol 40mg ED
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Week 1 Clen 40mcg
Week 2 Clen 40mcg
Week 3 off
Week 4 off
Week 5 Clen 40mcg
Week 6 Clen 40mcg
Week 7 off
Week 8 off
Week 9 Clen 40mcg
Week 10 Clen 40mcg
Week 11 off
Week 12 off
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Week 1 T3 25mcg
Week 2 T3 50mcg
Week 3 T3 75mcg
Week 4 T3 100mcg
Week 5 T3 75mcg
Week 6 T3 50mcg
Week 7 T3 25mcg
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Week 1-12 Arimidex .5mg ED
Week 1-12 Mirapex 1mg ED
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PCT Starting 3 Days after last pin:

Week 1: Nolva 40 mg & Clomid 50mg ED
Week 2: Nolva 40 mg & Clomid 50mg ED
Week 3: Nolva 20 mg & Clomid 50mg ED
Week 4: Nolva 20 mg & Clomid 50mg ED
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**mb10** · 10-04-2013, 04:02 AM

Important Info:

Weight- 195
Height- 6'1
BF- 11%
Training- 2 Years

Cycle history-
1st: Test E 500mg/week for 10 Weeks w/ PCT (Nolva/Clomid) & AI throughout
2nd: Test E 500mg/week for 10 Weeks, Deca 250mg Weeks 1-8, DBol 40mg Weeks 1-6 w/
PCT (Nolva/Clomid) & AI throughout

Goals: Approach 7-8% Body Fat while keeping as much strength & muscle mass as possible.

Diet: 2850 Calories, 200g Protein, 50g Carbs, 250g Fat (Keto) with cheat meals a few times a month to keep the body guessing

Training Split: Chest/Tris, Back/Bis, Shoulders/Abs/Obliques, Legs/Calves
Cardio: 30 minute biking every day
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Thoughts: From what I've read, ED pinning will minimize the sides and, of course, keep blood levels very stable. All in all, I've done lots of research and am really excited for this cycle. One thing I would change in an ideal world is that the Andromix keeps me from being able to play with the dose distribution. I've heard running one compound at a higher dose than the other (with regards to tren /test) is beneficial but the 50% off of Andromix from a certain site's product of the week promotion will save a ton of money. Either way, I think this cycle will work out well and yield great results! Anything I'm missing or any thoughts? Thanks!

**Back In Black** · 10-04-2013, 04:03 AM

Age?

20?

**Rida5d** · 10-04-2013, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Age?

20?

Looks like it..

**Sfla80** · 10-04-2013, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by mb10

Important Info:

Weight- 195
Height- 6'1
BF- 11%
Training- 2 Years

Cycle history-
1st: Test E 500mg/week for 10 Weeks w/ PCT (Nolva/Clomid) & AI throughout
2nd: Test E 500mg/week for 10 Weeks, Deca 250mg Weeks 1-8, DBol 40mg Weeks 1-6 w/
PCT (Nolva/Clomid) & AI throughout

Goals: Approach 7-8% Body Fat while keeping as much strength & muscle mass as possible.

Diet: 2850 Calories, 200g Protein, 50g Carbs, 250g Fat (Keto) with cheat meals a few times a month to keep the body guessing

Training Split: Chest/Tris, Back/Bis, Shoulders/Abs/Obliques, Legs/Calves
Cardio: 30 minute biking every day
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____________________________________________
Thoughts: From what I've read, ED pinning will minimize the sides and, of course, keep blood levels very stable. All in all, I've done lots of research and am really excited for this cycle. One thing I would change in an ideal world is that the Andromix keeps me from being able to play with the dose distribution. I've heard running one compound at a higher dose than the other (with regards to tren /test) is beneficial but the 50% off of Andromix from a certain site's product of the week promotion will save a ton of money. Either way, I think this cycle will work out well and yield great results! Anything I'm missing or any thoughts? Thanks!

Kitchen sink?

**t-dogg** · 10-04-2013, 05:28 AM

So your adding ALL thos new compounds ALL in one cycle?

I'll add to this after you reply.

**spiralkut** · 10-04-2013, 06:04 AM

For a 3rd cycle too many compounds also t3 is pretty ****ed up id wait until you have couple more cycles under your belt before trying it.

**t-dogg** · 10-04-2013, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by spiralkut

For a 3rd cycle too many compounds also t3 is pretty ****ed up id wait until you have couple more cycles under your belt before trying it.

What's wrong with t3?

**qscgugcsq** · 10-04-2013, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

What's wrong with t3?

agreed, T3 create a retroinhibiton right, but the thyroid recover pretty damn fast and cause no notable adverse effect.(for what I know).

I do believe that T3 is a must in every cutting cycle.

the problem with his protocol is the taper up and down who is completly useless and he only runs it for 7week... he clearly do not know what he is doing but nohings wrong wih t3...

**DOSA** · 10-04-2013, 12:36 PM

so let me get this correct. you are 20 and this is your 3rd cycle.

the first week alone you will be taking the following daily:
test p
tren a
masta : all at 50mg ed
winny at 40mg ed
clen , a-dex and t3.

please slow down on this one, add just one compound this next cycle. I can only imagine how your body will feel after a couple weeks of this.
plus at your age man you have so much time......

**mb10** · 10-05-2013, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

So your adding ALL thos new compounds ALL in one cycle?

I'll add to this after you reply.

Yeah, but after reading some of these comments I'm thinking of just dropping the T3 and Winny all together. The test/tren /mast alone should be more than enough. I read that tapering T3 was the best way to go if used, but I've never tried it and have zero experience with the stuff... Thoughts?

**mb10** · 10-05-2013, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by DOSA

so let me get this correct. you are 20 and this is your 3rd cycle.

the first week alone you will be taking the following daily:
test p
tren a
masta : all at 50mg ed
winny at 40mg ed
clen , a-dex and t3.

please slow down on this one, add just one compound this next cycle. I can only imagine how your body will feel after a couple weeks of this.
plus at your age man you have so much time......

Like I said in the above post, I'm thinking of dropping the winny and t3. Only thing is, isn't winny supposed to work synergistically with tren for better results all around? I appreciate the responses and patience guys. I'm completely new to tren, T3, winny, and mast so all of the wisdom is surely appreciated.

**Rida5d** · 10-05-2013, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by mb10

Like I said in the above post, I'm thinking of dropping the winny and t3. Only thing is, isn't winny supposed to work synergistically with tren for better results all around? I appreciate the responses and patience guys. I'm completely new to tren, T3, winny, and mast so all of the wisdom is surely appreciated.

drop the whole cycle before destroying your endocrine system..
now.. i am really sure u wont .. so remember my face few years from now with my cap on my head when u will depend on a test injection to function like a man .. unless you are already screwed up with 3 cycles at the age of 20..

**Megalodon6** · 10-05-2013, 03:53 AM

^^^ listen to em man he wouldn't just go out of his way to say this!!

**Rida5d** · 10-05-2013, 06:51 AM

most of the times a super cutting cycle ends up in a bad way

jk

**austinite** · 10-05-2013, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Rida5d

drop the whole cycle before destroying your endocrine system..

Agree.

**John Andrew** · 10-05-2013, 08:33 AM

34 years in the gym and I have never met anybody who started at age 20 and amounted to anything other than nothing.

You have to become a fully grown mature man first, train at least 5 years, be super strong, and know this is going to be in your life forever. Then you can make a decision. Please listen. John

**Anxnymous** · 10-05-2013, 02:49 PM

My uncle started when he was 17 or 18, IMO I think its genetics, how your body responds to AAS and that you use them in the right manner and having a stack like this is not advised, stick with one supplement at a safe dosage.

**adrenaline99** · 10-05-2013, 08:21 PM

I'm new to to the world of AAs ive only ever ran test for bulking or cutting....but it would seem to me that when you get to the point of this complex of a cycle(unless you're VERY experienced and have a massive foundation) you start to experience significant diminishing returns do you not? In other words why not just use test and t3 for cutting?