Facts are facts !!!

**John Andrew** · 10-05-2013, 07:48 PM

Do not believe what you read. magazines are to sell an image and products. All really big bodybuilders train long hours and with great intensity. The twice a day was used prior to comp normally.

As a power lifter, I still do a minimum of 3 hours on a group of muscles. I still train twice a day before comps and still have young guys ask me how I am so strong! I am 58 now. I trained with Bev Francis when she was 6 years world champion power lifter and before she won the Miss Olympia. I often smile when I watch people in the gym.

Big is strong and both are related to time and effort! How much you put in is a matter of choice.

I will dead lift 300kgs (660lbs) this year, just because I have not done it yet! 270 pulled me up last time.

Please I am not being rude but 34 years I have never seen anybody big who did not train as I say. I have trained with many, I am so old you see! I want to die trying to still do better! Kindest regards, John

**redz** · 10-05-2013, 09:27 PM

I don't have to do anything to make you look like an idiot you are doing just fine making idiotic posts with false information. Ed is not unavoidable as you claimed and deca will not help with Ed either ever heard the term deca dick? Telling someone to take letro as an ai is also dumb. Nothing you said was accurate.

**aviator850** · 10-05-2013, 11:45 PM

Yeah I just replied about that in my thread.. Deca definitely would not help an erection in a good way. I HAVEN'T looked into deca that much but I'm trying to cut and I thought deca gets you more mass but I have heard of guys using deca and winny in the same cycle, so maybe I'm wrong.. don't know a lot about letro, as arimdex worked great for me, but I heard that letro kills estrogen.. soooo why would that help my erection issue??

just curious, you said you were on here to seek information, but why give it?? if you do give it why not say I have read or I'm not 100% but I have heard this..?? when you posted on my thread you sounded like you were positive on what you were saying..

**Sub_Zero** · 10-06-2013, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

You meant to reference C++, but you intended to say PHP. Either way there would be no comma in "Hello World!", therefore; both references are incorrect.

Actually, you could:

Private Sub cmd(your nominated caption)
MsgBox "Hello World!", vbInformation, "New to AAS World"

End Sub

But you would probably need to use VB. Other than that you're absolutely correct there is no way comma can be added within C++ nor PHP as the syntax will be incorrect.

You have a sophisticated sense of humour Austine I'll give you that

**Sub_Zero** · 10-06-2013, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by John Andrew

Do not believe what you read. magazines are to sell an image and products. All really big bodybuilders train long hours and with great intensity. The twice a day was used prior to comp normally. As a power lifter, I still do a minimum of 3 hours on a group of muscles. I still train twice a day before comps and still have young guys ask me how I am so strong! I am 58 now. I trained with Bev Francis when she was 6 years world champion power lifter and before she won the Miss Olympia. I often smile when I watch people in the gym. Big is strong and both are related to time and effort! How much you put in is a matter of choice. I will dead lift 300kgs (660lbs) this year, just because I have not done it yet! 270 pulled me up last time. Please I am not being rude but 34 years I have never seen anybody big who did not train as I say. I have trained with many, I am so old you see! I want to die trying to still do better! Kindest regards, John

Thanks for your advice John, much appreciated.

**Sub_Zero** · 10-06-2013, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by redz

I don't have to do anything to make you look like an idiot you are doing just fine making idiotic posts with false information. Ed is not unavoidable as you claimed and deca will not help with Ed either ever heard the term deca dick? Telling someone to take letro as an ai is also dumb. Nothing you said was accurate.

First and foremost Letro is a complicated substance to control because is known to be an estrogen killer. This substance is mainly used as a pre contest drug to dry you out or to reverse gyno depending on user's preference. According to my buddy Letro will without a doubt suppress your sex drive. Is it true is it not, I don't know but that's what I was told by someone who's a competitive bodybuilder.
In terms of Deca Dick, I don't recall a single person experiencing it as long as they use it in conjunction with testosterone . Unless of course the ratio is 9:1
In terms of ED, I don't know if you have noticed but the person who posted a thread to which I replied specified that he will be running Proviron which is in my opinion is AI with libido increasing properties which again has been used by my friend before the contest. So the advice that I gave was in moderation with what I've seen during my friend's cutting phase.

**Sub_Zero** · 10-06-2013, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by aviator850

Yeah I just replied about that in my thread.. Deca definitely would not help an erection in a good way. I HAVEN'T looked into deca that much but I'm trying to cut and I thought deca gets you more mass but I have heard of guys using deca and winny in the same cycle, so maybe I'm wrong.. don't know a lot about letro, as arimdex worked great for me, but I heard that letro kills estrogen.. soooo why would that help my erection issue?? just curious, you said you were on here to seek information, but why give it?? if you do give it why not say I have read or I'm not 100% but I have heard this..?? when you posted on my thread you sounded like you were positive on what you were saying..

My advice was based on someone's personal experience as a competitive bodybuilder. Since you are going into a cutting phase I thought it would be helpful if I drop some info which I have acquired from my friend. My apologies for not mentioning that at the beginning. If you think that my advice is full of $hit as some members of the board believe, then simply ignore.

**evander87** · 10-07-2013, 11:18 AM

So many absolutes in this thread.

My first two cycles, test only. I didn't lose a pound coming off.

I know a number of competitors that lift less than an hour a day. They are fricking HUGE but don't live at the gym.

"Fitness FACTS" are such crap because there are a million ways to get to your fitness goals. What works for someone else might not work for you.

**austinite** · 10-07-2013, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sub_Zero

Actually, you could:

Private Sub cmd(your nominated caption)
MsgBox "Hello World!", vbInformation, "New to AAS World"

End Sub

But you would probably need to use VB. Other than that you're absolutely correct there is no way comma can be added within C++ nor PHP as the syntax will be incorrect.

You have a sophisticated sense of humour Austine I'll give you that

Touche'