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11-01-2013, 10:05 PM #1
Opinions on 19-Nors and Progesterone
Bromocriptine, Cabergoline, Pramipexole.
If you were running a cycle with a 19-Nor, what would you use to treat/control/prevent progestins from "acting bad?"
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11-01-2013, 10:16 PM #2
I don't have experience with Bromo, but caber and prami are both great. prami is far more readily available, easy to dose and effective.
Beware of liquid caber... it's not stable in liquid, so don't trust anyone selling it.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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11-01-2013, 10:20 PM #3
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11-01-2013, 10:23 PM #4
^ yeah. I recommend starting at 0.25mg for several days. Then increasing by 0.25mg increments slowly, not to exceed 1mg daily. Key point: Take it when you're sleepy and going to bed. You need to be able to pass out and sleep through the sides.
~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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11-01-2013, 10:31 PM #5
Thanks, Austinite. I've heard Caber is good but expensive, and can give you some rough sides. From what I read online (and now from you), Prami is the way to go. Thanks for the feedback.
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11-01-2013, 10:34 PM #6
I would go with Caber. Your morning blood shot eyes and feeling like a hangover will slowly go away as your body gets used to it. I've used Bromo also and it's worst then caber on the morning side effects.
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11-02-2013, 12:12 AM #7Originally Posted by austinite
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11-02-2013, 12:15 AM #8~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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11-02-2013, 12:21 AM #9Originally Posted by austinite
- insomnia
- somnolence
- dizziness
- nausea
- constipation
- confusion (oh wait, that's my normal state)
- nasal congestion
- extremity pain
- compulsive behaviors (oh, nope, that's normal)
- increased urination
.....and the dreams I had when I managed about 20 minutes of sleep every three hours were like something from a Rob Zombie flick!!!!!!
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11-02-2013, 12:25 AM #10
Ouch! Did you make it to the restroom at least?? Poor HAW dealing with all this.
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"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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11-02-2013, 12:29 AM #11
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11-02-2013, 12:46 AM #12Originally Posted by Megalodon6
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11-02-2013, 12:48 AM #13Originally Posted by austinite
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11-02-2013, 12:49 AM #14Originally Posted by Megalodon6
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11-02-2013, 01:02 AM #15
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11-02-2013, 01:27 AM #16Originally Posted by Megalodon6
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11-02-2013, 06:42 AM #17
Bromo tends to be the less effective of the 3 and my preference is Caber all the way.
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11-02-2013, 11:20 AM #18
I always keep caber on hand haven't tried the other 2.
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11-02-2013, 11:40 AM #19
So what is everybody's thoughts on prohormones in general? I haven't done much research into them other than things like pregnenolone and DHEA.
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11-02-2013, 12:33 PM #20~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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11-02-2013, 12:39 PM #21
Didn't Ar-r used to sell caber?
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11-02-2013, 12:42 PM #22
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11-02-2013, 12:45 PM #23~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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11-02-2013, 01:01 PM #24
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11-02-2013, 01:04 PM #25
19 Nors are not pro hormones.
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11-02-2013, 01:10 PM #26
From my understanding, and like I said I haven't done much research into it but 19-Nors supposedly convert to nandrolone in the body. By that definition, it's a prohormone.
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11-02-2013, 01:13 PM #27
Nandrolone is testosterone modified at the 19 position of the molecule. It is a hormone not pro hormone. That is my basic understanding of it.
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11-27-2013, 01:43 PM #28
Prohormones are converted by the body through the metabolism phase into an active hormone. Steroids are active hormones from the start. That's my understanding of it. It's been my understanding that PHs are usually underdosed (if it says take three a day, you'll most likely need to take five or six). Waste of money.
Tren is a 19-nor AAS. Are you saying Tren is a prohormone? I always thought it was a pretty powerful steroid .
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