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    Advice on 2nd cycle please - Deca and Test E

    I am planning my second cycle and would appreciate some advice.

    Age: 28
    Weight: 93kg (205lb)
    Height: 6'
    Body Fat: Estimated at around 15-20%. I have attached a pic
    Lifting history: Been lifting for around 5 years. Ive started seeing a bodybuilding PT for one of my leg days in the past 2 months. He destroys my legs.
    Cycle history: Completed one cycleearlier this year. Did 4 weeks of 350mg Test E and then 5 weeks of 500mg Test E. PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50. Was mostly a small sample cycle so I could see how my body would react. I was worried about scarring from acne but luckily I had none of that. Here is my original thread - Advice on 1st cycle please

    I am planning-:

    W1-W8 500mg of Test E.
    W1-W8 250mg Deca Durabolin
    W1-W8 500iu of Hcg

    Mon - 250mg Test E + 250mg Deca in same syringe IM + 250 iu of Hcg subcut
    Thurs - 250mg Test E IM + 250 iu Hcg subcut

    PCT:
    W10-13 Nolva 40/40/20/20
    W10-13 Clomid 100/100/50/50

    I am still reading up about AI's but will likely run one based on the research Ive done so far.

    Please let me know what you think.
    I am going to post my diet on the diet forum separately as I have a lot of questions/things I need to get sorted with that.

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    No real need for Deca at this this time bro.You will do great running test only for a while.You are only going too grow so much each cycle.So why add more to the mix.Diet is 95% of getting big!

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    I'm not trying to be mean, but that picture made me laugh hysterically and idk why.

    It's obvious to me you have not trained for 5 years.
    I would focus a little more on diet and training right now. But if your going to run something regardless, run test and hold off on the deca
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    You are nowhere near ready to use aas. Train for atleast another 6 months, gain a bit more muscles and get below 15% bf before you even consider a cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis_tom View Post
    I am planning my second cycle and would appreciate some advice.

    Age: 28
    Weight: 93kg (205lb)
    Height: 6'
    Body Fat: Estimated at around 15-20%. I have attached a pic
    Lifting history: Been lifting for around 5 years. Ive started seeing a bodybuilding PT for one of my leg days in the past 2 months. He destroys my legs.
    Cycle history: Completed one cycleearlier this year. Did 4 weeks of 350mg Test E and then 5 weeks of 500mg Test E. PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50. Was mostly a small sample cycle so I could see how my body would react. I was worried about scarring from acne but luckily I had none of that. Here is my original thread - Advice on 1st cycle please

    I am planning-:

    W1-W8 500mg of Test E.
    W1-W8 250mg Deca Durabolin
    W1-W8 500iu of Hcg

    Mon - 250mg Test E + 250mg Deca in same syringe IM + 250 iu of Hcg subcut
    Thurs - 250mg Test E IM + 250 iu Hcg subcut

    PCT:
    W10-13 Nolva 40/40/20/20
    W10-13 Clomid 100/100/50/50

    I am still reading up about AI's but will likely run one based on the research Ive done so far.

    Please let me know what you think.
    I am going to post my diet on the diet forum separately as I have a lot of questions/things I need to get sorted with that.

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    I would avoid nandrolone for this cycle as you need a cutting cycle. Nandrolone can be used to cut, however, if you're not experienced with the compound and don't have a decent nutritional plan, you'll likely end up retaining too much water and some fat.

    Test E at 500 mg for 12 weeks minimum. AI on cycle, sart with 0.25 g eod and adjust according to your mid-cycle blood work. hCG 250 IU twice weekly and PCT like you have it, just remove the second week frontload and use half the dose. You can look into T3 for this cycle of CES stack.

    Whatever you choose to do, just avoid bulking at this time.

    Have a powerful day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite

    I would avoid nandrolone for this cycle as you need a cutting cycle. Nandrolone can be used to cut, however, if you're not experienced with the compound and don't have a decent nutritional plan, you'll likely end up retaining too much water and some fat.

    Test E at 500 mg for 12 weeks minimum. AI on cycle, sart with 0.25 g eod and adjust according to your mid-cycle blood work. hCG 250 IU twice weekly and PCT like you have it, just remove the second week frontload and use half the dose. You can look into T3 for this cycle of CES stack.

    Whatever you choose to do, just avoid bulking at this time.

    Have a powerful day.
    Austin, what is T3 and it's purpose? I've tried looking for the profile for it but can't find it on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrow89 View Post
    Austin, what is T3 and it's purpose? I've tried looking for the profile for it but can't find it on my phone.
    http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...how-works.html
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    Cheers I'll have a read!

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