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    multi ester steroids

    what is the point in multi ester tests, trens ect ? i was looking at one earlier with 5 different esters of test, prop, ace, cyp, decanoate and on other i havnt heard of, and i thought what is the point why have long and short esters in one bottle ? you'd have to inject eod because of the prop ? surely just one strong ester would be more efficient ?

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    lots of threads on this, but test is test no ester is stronger...I personally am choosing to run a blend because I believe it will kick in quickly as per what I've read ( no experience, could be wrong but I don't see how from all I've read) people at it's bad for beginners because of frequent injections but I'm fine with that... they do say sust flu occurs but I'm reading so much about stabilizing test levels and gonna get bw should be ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by smc88
    what is the point in multi ester tests, trens ect ? i was looking at one earlier with 5 different esters of test, prop, ace, cyp, decanoate and on other i havnt heard of, and i thought what is the point why have long and short esters in one bottle ? you'd have to inject eod because of the prop ? surely just one strong ester would be more efficient ?
    Some prefer the blends because the short esters in the suspension provide a kick start to the cycle while the long esters take longer to reach optimal levels.

    The problem is that blends are often (not always) more painful to cycle and harder to adjust if side effects become an issue.

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    the blends (like sust) are a throw back to an earlier period when the pharmacuticals were trying to develop a better releasing test so that when injecting e or c, it will give you a nice even blood serum level right off the bat. But this only works with the first injection. After that, mixing slow/fast burn esthers becomes problematic, as now you must manage to the shortest burning esther to maintain that stable blood serum level. Which means, if prop is one of the esthers, you must inject at least every other day. defeats the purpose of having slow burn esthers in there.

    There is one advantage if you accept to injecting eod. and that being, with the slow burning esthers, blood serum levels are stable over the course of a day, but not over a week (again, think e and c). with the fast burning esthers, blood serum levels are stable over the period of a week, but not over a period of a day. So by injecting sust eod, you get the best of both.

    assume:
    prop is injected eod
    e and c are injected 1xweek

    note:
    you can accomplish the same thing by injecting e or c eod too, and at a substantially reduced cost

    hope this helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman
    the blends (like sust) are a throw back to an earlier period when the pharmacuticals were trying to develop a better releasing test so that when injecting e or c, it will give you a nice even blood serum level right off the bat. But this only works with the first injection. After that, mixing slow/fast burn esthers becomes problematic, as now you must manage to the shortest burning esther to maintain that stable blood serum level. Which means, if prop is one of the esthers, you must inject at least every other day. defeats the purpose of having slow burn esthers in there.

    There is one advantage if you accept to injecting eod. and that being, with the slow burning esthers, blood serum levels are stable over the course of a day, but not over a week (again, think e and c). with the fast burning esthers, blood serum levels are stable over the period of a week, but not over a period of a day. So by injecting sust eod, you get the best of both.

    assume:
    prop is injected eod
    e and c are injected 1xweek

    note:
    you can accomplish the same thing by injecting e or c eod too, and at a substantially reduced cost

    hope this helps!
    ---Roman
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