Got some questions thanks

[Fabi0]

Hey guys got some questions about my cycle of andropen 275 and eq. While injecting eq I feel as if that's the normal amount of soreness for pip and it manageable not in pain or anything just a lil sore. On the other hand injecting my test it is almost instantly I can feel that's it's getting tight already. Next day is ok still more sore than eq. But third day it is ridiculous first two shots of it were into glutes and the pip three days later was ridiculous I couldn't hardly sit on my ass and was just hating life have some knot looking muscle on my glutes now and they are slowly subsiding. Another thing I've noticed is how the next day after my test shot I usually get the feeling of a flu headaches achy body etc.....I've been doing my best to tough it out but I'm hating life on these bullshit sick days anyone give some advice and help me out I appreciate it so much thanks!

[Mp859]

Hey guys got some questions about my cycle of andropen 275 and eq. While injecting eq I feel as if that's the normal amount of soreness for pip and it manageable not in pain or anything just a lil sore. On the other hand injecting my test it is almost instantly I can feel that's it's getting tight already. Next day is ok still more sore than eq. But third day it is ridiculous first two shots of it were into glutes and the pip three days later was ridiculous I couldn't hardly sit on my ass and was just hating life have some knot looking muscle on my glutes now and they are slowly subsiding. Another thing I've noticed is how the next day after my test shot I usually get the feeling of a flu headaches achy body etc.....I've been doing my best to tough it out but I'm hating life on these bullshit sick days anyone give some advice and help me out I appreciate it so much thanks!

Is it ugl gear?


Blends are known to cause more soreness as well.

How much are you injecting at once?
Size and length of needle?

[fit2bOld]

You shouldn't be messing with AAS your only 21 and skinny according to the photo. Try visiting the nutrition section. EQ won't do a thing and neither will the andropen if your not eating. Have you planned your pct or have an AI or HCG for the cycle?

[Mp859]

You shouldn't be messing with AAS your only 21 and skinny according to the photo. Try visiting the nutrition section. EQ won't do a thing and neither will the andropen if your not eating. Have you planned your pct or have an AI or HCG for the cycle?

This is true

[Fabi0]

Is it ugl gear?


Blends are known to cause more soreness as well.

How much are you injecting at once?
Size and length of needle?

It's bd andropen and seems legit first shots were 1ml and the second shots were cut in half and split with eq to see if that Dulles the pain

[Fabi0]

Is it ugl gear?


Blends are known to cause more soreness as well.

How much are you injecting at once?
Size and length of needle?

It's bd andropen and seems legit first shots were 1ml and the second shots were cut in half and split with eq to see if that Dulles the pain o and the needle size is 23g 1.5 in

[Mp859]

It's bd andropen and seems legit first shots were 1ml and the second shots were cut in half and split with eq to see if that Dulles the pain

It's probably just pain because it is a blend of 5 different esters.

[Fabi0]

You shouldn't be messing with AAS your only 21 and skinny according to the photo. Try visiting the nutrition section. EQ won't do a thing and neither will the andropen if your not eating. Have you planned your pct or have an AI or HCG for the cycle?

That picture was a long time ago and I was trying to get lean for summer but right now I am 193 5ft 11in I have been eating like mad I went to school to get a degree and be a nutritionist as for my pct I have nolva Incase any gymo comes of this and I do have hcg to reatimulate my production

[Mp859]

That picture was a long time ago and I was trying to get lean for summer but right now I am 193 5ft 11in I have been eating like mad I went to school to get a degree and be a nutritionist as for my pct I have nolva Incase any gymo comes of this and I do have hcg to reatimulate my production

You may want to put this cycle on hold. Run a nolva clomid pct and do some more research before getting back on. These guys are all going to tell you the same thing.

[Fabi0]

It's probably just pain because it is a blend of 5 different esters.

You think so man ? I also figured it was just due to virgin muscle and also that it is a blend

[Fabi0]

You may want to put this cycle on hold. Run a nolva clomid pct and do some more research before getting back on. These guys are all going to tell you the same thing.

Ok well I appreciate your opinion but could you explain as to why I should stop or put it on hold for a while ? I knew guys who have done shit in highschool and they are just fine granted they only did it for aesthetic purposes and after their cycle didn't keep much of anything ? For me I have a different set of goals and don't intend to just quit and lose all I've worked for....when is a good time to start aas then and with what I have now or know y should I stop ? Understand I don't know much I'd just like to think I'm a little smarter than others ?

[Mp859]

Ok well I appreciate your opinion but could you explain as to why I should stop or put it on hold for a while ? I knew guys who have done shit in highschool and they are just fine granted they only did it for aesthetic purposes and after their cycle didn't keep much of anything ? For me I have a different set of goals and don't intend to just quit and lose all I've worked for....when is a good time to start aas then and with what I have now or know y should I stop ? Understand I don't know much I'd just like to think I'm a little smarter than others ?

25 is the suggested age around here which allows more time for your HPta to develop completely. Doing steroids before that developement can lead to irreversible damage and a lifetime of trt. This damage may be noticed until later on and it may be to late. You should take a step back do some more research,work on nutrition. Then down the road you could get back on and reap the full benefits of aas and you will be more aware of the sides and potential dangers.

Down the road when those kids from high school are depressed and can't get a hard on you will be running a cycle intelligently and getting huge.

[Fabi0]

**** .....? Well so I should stop then..... well Huh I'm two weeks in ? This sucks kinda got me depressed already cuz I don't wanna stop I just wanna be a beast! And see what they coulda done fore as I can already dead 500 and squat 475 and bench 315 all for three naturally this blows Man U don't even know ! So I should just stop taking all my shit at once or taper off ? And then take my nolva and the vile of hcg

[Mp859]

**** .....? Well so I should stop then..... well Huh I'm two weeks in ? This sucks kinda got me depressed already cuz I don't wanna stop I just wanna be a beast! And see what they coulda done fore as I can already dead 500 and squat 475 and bench 315 all for three naturally this blows Man U don't even know ! So I should just stop taking all my shit at once or taper off ? And then take my nolva and the vile of hcg

I would just to be more prepared and gain some more knowledge. There is obviously a lack of knowledge around the pct side. For the future you should run hcg on cycle to prevent atrophy and testicular function. And pct should include clomid and nolva not jut nolva.

You have plenty of years bro don't rush it. It's a marathon not a sprint. You will be there soon enough.

Are you just starting your second week?
You could most likely just come off now with no complications. But since you have the nolva just run it. 20/20/20/20

This site has a ton of useful information regarding diet,training, and aas research. And also contains very many extremely knowledgable members.

[Fabi0]

I would just to be more prepared and gain some more knowledge. There is obviously a lack of knowledge around the pct side. For the future you should run hcg on cycle to prevent atrophy and testicular function. And pct should include clomid and nolva not jut nolva.

You have plenty of years bro don't rush it. It's a marathon not a sprint. You will be there soon enough.

Are you just starting your second week?
You could most likely just come off now with no complications. But since you have the nolva just run it. 20/20/20/20

This site has a ton of useful information regarding diet,training, and aas research. And also contains very many extremely knowledgable members.

Ok well thanks a bunch man once again I do appreciate you sharing all of ur thoughts for me and I'm sure I will be thankful eventually ! As for now I'm a little butt hurt ha but I understand now where you're coming from and will work my hardest to get my body to what I want. So ok ill just stop all my shots now last shot was this last Friday. So I guess it's done now and when would u suggest I start taking my nolva ....? And I should take 20mg a week for 4weeks what about the hcg too ?

[Fabi0]

O and no this Monday woulda been the start of week three

[Mp859]

Ok well thanks a bunch man once again I do appreciate you sharing all of ur thoughts for me and I'm sure I will be thankful eventually ! As for now I'm a little butt hurt ha but I understand now where you're coming from and will work my hardest to get my body to what I want. So ok ill just stop all my shots now last shot was this last Friday. So I guess it's done now and when would u suggest I start taking my nolva ....? And I should take 20mg a week for 4weeks what about the hcg too ?

Don't run the hcg . It is suppressive you don't want to run it post cycle. You only been on for 2 weeks you probably don't need to run an aggresive pct. But wait the two weeks for the long esters to clear you system and then run the
nolva 20 mg Ed for 4 weeks.

[Mp859]

Stick around and read and learn some stuff brother.

[Fabi0]

Don't run the hcg . It is suppressive you don't want to run it post cycle. You only been on for 2 weeks you probably don't need to run an aggresive pct. But wait the two weeks for the long esters to clear you system and then run the
nolva 20 mg Ed for 4 weeks.

Ok that's exactly what ill do brother and thanks again .... Couple more things can I finish my growth cycle

[Mp859]

Ok that's exactly what ill do brother and thanks again .... Couple more things can I finish my growth cycle

What do you mean?

[Igifuno]

Nice job MP, and congrats Fabi0 for being smart. Not too many people would have done what you did. Very nice.

[Fabi0]

What do you mean?

Sorry I didn't mention I was also taking hgh mon thru fir and I was wondering if I'm ok to finish that ?

[Fabi0]

Nice job MP, and congrats Fabi0 for being smart. Not too many people would have done what you did. Very nice.

Thanks a lot man and it just sucks cuz I see all these guys on gear or have been and how bug they get and still are.....I just want the big guy in the gym that everyone looks to for advice and lifting knowledge. I've also been wanting to so a physique comp for a while now and just wanted something to take me to the next level and see what it's all about

[Igifuno]

You're 21, and have the ability to make tremendous progress on your own with a good diet and aggressive training.

If I were you, I would discontinue the hgh as well. No need for it at your age. Your body is (likely) producing a high level of its own gh/igf-1 at 21.

It's not all about being the big guy in the gym, take care of yourself along that journey or you could suffer greatly in the future. Be patient and you'll get there in one piece. Take shortcuts and compounds too early and you may seriously jack yourself up.

Again, congrats on doing the smart thing. Stick around and let other young men know that you chose to discontinue due to the risks.

Good luck!

[Fabi0]

You're 21, and have the ability to make tremendous progress on your own with a good diet and aggressive training.

If I were you, I would discontinue the hgh as well. No need for it at your age. Your body is (likely) producing a high level of its own gh/igf-1 at 21.

It's not all about being the big guy in the gym, take care of yourself along that journey or you could suffer greatly in the future. Be patient and you'll get there in one piece. Take shortcuts and compounds too early and you may seriously jack yourself up.

Again, congrats on doing the smart thing. Stick around and let other young men know that you chose to discontinue due to the risks.

Good luck!

Thanks brother hope to keep hearing from you in the future Ill plan on just getting back to natty and then see how I progress with some help and what not from guys on the forum

[Mp859]

Sorry I didn't mention I was also taking hgh mon thru fir and I was wondering if I'm ok to finish that ?

I figured that's what you meant. Finish up why Gh you have otherwise it will go bad.

People on here will give you props for your decision to wait and you will be thankful you did down the road.

[Fabi0]

I figured that's what you meant. Finish up why Gh you have otherwise it will go bad.

People on here will give you props for your decision to wait and you will be thankful you did down the road.

Once again I appreciate it and yeah I've gotta feelin that listening to some of you guys is gonna pay off ! Keep in touch

[Mp859]

Once again I appreciate it and yeah I've gotta feelin that listening to some of you guys is gonna pay off ! Keep in touch

Head over to Marcus's diary in the lounge for alot of training information.

[Megalodon6]

Head over to Marcus's diary in the lounge for alot of training information.

That thread is awesome

[fit2bOld]

That picture was a long time ago and I was trying to get lean for summer but right now I am 193 5ft 11in I have been eating like mad I went to school to get a degree and be a nutritionist as for my pct I have nolva Incase any gymo comes of this and I do have hcg to reatimulate my production

Well this proves it..... Your not ready nor are you educated to run a proper cycle. You should have solid PCT in hand be running HCG on cycle. An AI to control estrogen on cycle not rescuing yourself from gyno which means your estrogen is so wacked this is what you got. Pics or its not true.