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12-04-2013, 12:04 AM #1New Member
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PCT for Masteron, Winstrol, Tren and test P
A buddy of mine is 29 years old, 6 foot tall 220 lbs. He has put together this cycle on his own as shown below:
WEEKS 1-10: 150mg Testosterona P (1.5ml) Every Other Day / 50mg Winstrol (Strombafort) 1 Tab Every Day / Liv 52 1 Tab Every Day
WEEKS 1-5: 100mg Masteron (1ml) Every Other Day
WEEKS 2-4: 40mcg Clenbuterol Every Other Day
WEEKS 5-7: 40mcg Clenbuterol per day, 5 days on, 2 days off
WEEKS 8-10: 80mcg Clenbuterol Every Other Day
WEEKS 6-10: 75mg Trenbolone (1ml) Every Other Day
His question is, can he run the typical 4 week PCT as shown below:
Clomid & Nolvadex
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20
What PCT is best for him?
Also, with that cycle, how long after last injection should he start his PCT? In other words, of everything listed above, what stays active in the body the longest and when should he start his PCT?
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12-04-2013, 12:15 AM #2
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12-04-2013, 12:41 AM #3New Member
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Keto? I'm sorry I am not familiar with that. We actually were discussing whether or not he should run Arimidex /anastrazol during the cycle as well to be on the safe side. How much Arimidex would you recommend? 0.25 MG EOD? Thank you for the input on the PCT.
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12-04-2013, 05:39 AM #4
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.25mg/eod adex should be effective.
Read the below and advise your friend on the proper way to run clen and inform him about keto if he will be running it longer than 2 weeks simultaneously.
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Ketotifen and Clen
Clenbuterol is a beta 2 agonist which has a limited anabolic effect during its first few days of use and afterward is normally used to fight fat. At higher doses, however, it can be catabolic to muscle and it must be cycled on a 2 week on, 2 week of basis or the beta 2 receptors that clen binds to become saturated and down regulate.
Ketotifen’s magic is that it upregulates the beta-receptors including the beta 2s that clen uses. As long as you are taking ketotifen, it will continue to clean these receptors, never allowing them to downregulate – even while on a heavy clen cycle. That means you can continue to take clen indefinitely without having to cycle off to regenerate the receptors. 2-3mg ED can upregulate even severely shut down receptors within a week.
It also means that you don’t need as much clen to get the same benefits. It seems u can take about 30-40% less clen and it be equally effective. FONZ posted that it also increases the number of receptor sites on the surface of the cell, allowing more clen to attach and perhaps this is the reason for the increased efficacy. Ketotifen also seems to lessen the sides of clen including the jitters.
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