Get it right this time

[db11]

Im new to gear and after a couple of bad starts would like to get it right this time

I am 31
Male
Height : 6 3"
Weight : 182 pounds
Body fat is 15%

I was a boxer for 5 years so 99% off the time my diet is healthy
After quitting boxing i started weights this was 2 years ago
I have trained all this time give or take a coulpe of months due to injury and an op

At first i thourght u could just start jabbing and boom! But now im ready to get everyting right in place
My first cycle was a mess started taking decca for a couple of weeks then took test c with it for 2 month changed to test 400 and decca n did this for around another 2 month no ai and i took 1 clomid tablet every day for a month 2 weeks after i came off ( a mess i know ) this give me quite bad acne on my back/shoulders half way through which still hasnt 100% cleared
My 2nd cycle was tren a and mastron this cycle was cut short after about 4 - 5 weeks becouse i got an abscess to my right buttock this was caused by picking up bacteria when jabbing (something i never will let happen again) i had to have it packed daily for 5 weeks ouch!!

Now i have been looking through the stickys and threads on this site and want everything right and in place
After reading up i want to do a test only cycle for 10 weeks or so and see how i go

I would like some help with getting which ai and pct to use or anything eles i will need to get in place

Cheers

[bass]

well if you did your research and read the stickies you wouldn't be asking for help on AI's and PCT. everything you need is perfectly explained out here, in case you haven't seen it here is the link,


Cycles without Testosterone: Why you should avoid them at all costs

and of course cycle without a proper diet is worthless. here is a link to tech you how to structure a diet. watch the videos,

So you wanna learn how to Diet?

[db11]

[QUOTE="bass"]well if you did your research and read the stickies you wouldn't be asking for help on AI's and PCT. everything you need is perfectly explained out here, in case you haven't seen it here is the link, Cycles without Testosterone : Why you should avoid them at all costs and of course cycle without a proper diet is worthless. here is a link to tech you how to structure a diet. watch the videos,

It was the sticky which made me realise i need these
I still find it a little confusing as i dont understand it all
Thanks for the links ill have a good look

[austinite]

I still find it a little confusing as i dont understand it all
Thanks for the links ill have a good look

Tell us exactly what you do not understand so we can help you.

your body will aromatize, meaning testosterone will convert to estrogen. too much estrogen and you will develop terrible side effects, including but not limited to female characteristics. An AI will prevent these issues from happening.

PCT is post cycle therapy . When you cycle steroids , the areas of your brain that produce hormones needed for testosterone production are shut down. when you come off cycle, pct drugs will help restart those parts in your brain.

Capishe?

[bass]

if you cycle testosterone it should look like this in a nutshell.

Cycles,
test c or e, 500 mgs ew, preferably split to twice a week
hCG , 250 iu 3 times a week
AI, 0.25 eod and based on BW
NAC, 600mgs ed for liver support
donate blood at least once halfway through the cycle

PCT,
Nolva, 40/20/20/20
Clomid, 80/50/50/50

[db11]

Theres a few things i dont understand so bare with me

hCG ?
NAC?
And can u brake down the numbers after the pct please

Cheers

[bass]

what number to brake down?

hCG , is to keep your testis healthy, faster recovery.

NAC, liver support, its a supplement you buy form any vitamin store. I get mine from ARR.

[db11]

what number to brake down? hCG, is to keep your testis healthy, faster recovery. NAC, liver support, its a supplement you buy form any vitamin store. I get mine from ARR.

Where could i get hCG because im all for lookin after them little fellas

I live in england so im not sure if i could get NAC i will look in to liver suport

I have try to get aromasin before and couldnt dose anybody know the uk alternative

Iv got clomid but dont understand 80/50/50/50 is this the dose

[bass]

hCG use google, find a diet forum and see where they het hCG from. you can get adex from ARR. NAC online, they ship world wide, use Amazon.

the / means week,

80mgs every day for the first week
50mgs every day for second, third and fourth week.

[db11]

Im getting it now NAC liver suport i use milk thistle is this the same??

[bass]

NAC is better.

[db11]

I hear what your saying now thanks for your help I will see if i can get all this stuff ready then follow the advice It was test e i was thinking of do u think this would be the best for me

[clarky.]

You will get NAC from holland and Barrett or amazon db11 uk aromasin alternative ? It's not a American drug lol

[db11]

You will get NAC from holland and Barrett or amazon db11

Nice one ill get some tomorrow

[db11]

Clarky are all of these ai's proscription drug in the uk

[clarky.]

Clarky are all of these ai's proscription drug in the uk

Of what mate ?

[db11]

Is aromasin prescription if so is there anything i could get insted

[Bio-Active]

Is aromasin prescription if so is there anything i could get insted

any ai is going to be considered a scripted med

[tomer]

Always wondered what happens when chicks take steroids . Okay, so they have a lot of estrogen? They'll grow more boobs? (that was a joke, don't take it seriously). Honestly, what would be the side effects to a women have more estrogen?

[ickythump]

Always wondered what happens when chicks take steroids. Okay, so they have a lot of estrogen? They'll grow more boobs? (that was a joke, don't take it seriously). Honestly, what would be the side effects to a women have more estrogen?

they grow extra private parts... on their foreheads

[tomer]

they grow extra private parts... on their foreheads

That's amazing. Any other secrets I should know about?

[db11]

any ai is going to be considered a scripted med

I thought so ill ask around thanks

[Back In Black]

What are your goals for this cycle?

[db11]

What are your goals for this cycle?

Not massive mate i just want to go to the gym and feel good when i was fit from boxing i felt good fresh and confident everyday
With weights i think i need a little help from gear to feel this

[ghettoboyd]

Not massive mate i just want to go to the gym and feel good when i was fit from boxing i felt good fresh and confident everyday
With weights i think i need a little help from gear to feel this

if you need gear for inspiration bro then aas is not for you...if this is just a hobby then don't bother fuking with your hormones...if your not living the lifestyle you will just be disappointed when your lackluster efforts turn out lackluster results....

[db11]

if you need gear for inspiration bro then aas is not for you...if this is just a hobby then don't bother fuking with your hormones...if your not living the lifestyle you will just be disappointed when your lackluster efforts turn out lackluster results....

I dont need inspiration for years i have trained hard and am mentally strong and dedicated this is a change for me but something i have the lifestyle to stick to
Why do u take gear?

[ghettoboyd]

I dont need inspiration for years i have trained hard and am mentally strong and dedicated this is a change for me but something i have the lifestyle to stick to
Why do u take gear?

I take gear because I eat, breath and bleed this shit...I train with a passion unmatched by anything but my family....I started using when I was 36yrs after many long years of building a base natty...im one of many that did this right from the beginning and built up a strong base to build further upon with gear and it has done well for me...if you feel as strongly about this lifestyle as I do then jump on board only you can make that decision...good luck...

[Back In Black]

So you just wanna feel fresh and confident, that's it?

[db11]

I take gear because I eat, breath and bleed this shit...I train with a passion unmatched by anything but my family....I started using when I was 36yrs after many long years of building a base natty...im one of many that did this right from the beginning and built up a strong base to build further upon with gear and it has done well for me...if you feel as strongly about this lifestyle as I do then jump on board only you can make that decision...good luck...

What is your opinion that i should not take anything

[db11]

So you just wanna feel fresh and confident, that's it?

No i want to look good as well
Look im not tryin to be a funny but why do u do it if its not to look or feel good

[ghettoboyd]

What is your opinion that i should not take anything

my opinion is do what you want buddy just don't expect magic...

[Back In Black]

My thoughts behind you wanting to look god are that it will be about diet for you. 6'3 and 185lbs suggests you may have gaps in your dietary knowledge that should be shored up before you start cycling. Although Does look good mean leaner? More muscular?

[db11]

my opinion is do what you want buddy just don't expect magic...

Im not mate i just want to have a little test and a little help off here to do it
My training or lifestyle are 100%

[db11]

I have took in advice from the forum and am getting all my stuff ready to start a cycle in the new year

Its goin to be test e only cycle this is ready to pick up from a friend
How long should i run it i was thinking around 10 - 12 weeks ?

Tomorrow i am ordering aromasin hCG nolva and clomid i will work out how much to buy based on how many weeks i cycle and dosage i was sent in this thread

I have got NAC is there anything else that i will need ?

Thanks db11

[Back In Black]

A proper diet.

[db11]

A proper diet.

I do eat health but im wanting to do this all right so thats the next thing ill research

Will i get all i need to know from the stickys on here

[Back In Black]

There's so much more to it than eating healthy. 6'3 and 185lbs you don't eat enough.

[db11]

There's so much more to it than eating healthy. 6'3 and 185lbs you don't eat enough.

Honest mate i eat like a pig amount cant be the issue
It could be to much cardio or metabolism

I will browse the forum and see if i can learn more
Thanks

[Back In Black]

Honest mate i eat like a pig amount cant be the issue
It could be to much cardio or metabolism

I will browse the forum and see if i can learn more
Thanks

Regardless it needs fixing. If not you will gain little to nothing and lose it straight after your cycle.

Nutrition forum, yes
Sticky reading, yes
Start a thread for critique, most definitely

[db11]

Ok im on it
Have i covered everything i need with regard to the stuff im ordering