My early experience with Tren A

**PistolPete33** · 12-06-2013, 08:33 PM

So, I decided to see how my body responds to Tren . I chose Tren A for the short ester so if I start having issues I can just abort the Tren. I started this cycle at 600mg/week Test E and added the Tren a 2 weeks in. I started with a really low dose at 50mg/EOD and sides were minimal. This week I bumped it up to 75mgs/EOD and things are starting to kick in. I'm taking Prami at .25 per night before bed and tried upping it last night to .40 and thought I was going to die. It lasted about 20 minutes and I was sweating like a maniac and felt like I needed to puke. Luckily it didn't last long.

For sides with the tren I haven't had many at all. Night sweats aren't too bad which is a plus and I've only had the Tren-somnia a few nights so far. Been taking Melotonin about an hour before going to bed and have been sleeping like a rock. I'm starting to get the major lack of cardio associated with Tren. Doing a regular set at the gym I'm breathing heavy and doing some Martial Arts training is very difficult. I wouldn't even attempt sparring right now because I would def. gas too quickly.

The pros of the Tren so far are great. My strength is way up already. I added about 40lbs. to my bench press which I'm excited about. I'm sure some of it is just the confidence from being on the cycle. I don't want to go too crazy though and injure myself so I'm being smart about that. Since starting this cycle I'm up 6-8lbs. which isn't bad. I can't seem to break the 200lb mark though. Hovering around 198lbs at 5'8". I'm visibly larger and people have made comments and while trying to bulk I'm leaning out at the same time which is pretty cool. I'm hoping to get to 205-208 lean pounds and hoping to retain the 200lbs post cycle. Libido is way up and I'm def. a bit angrier and short tempered but nothing out of control.

Should I continue upping the dose every week or 2 weeks or should I just stay where I'm at seeing I'm not getting the really bad sides? In some ways I would like to see where my tolerance is but I also don't want to going too overboard either.

**Oki-Des** · 12-06-2013, 08:52 PM

Yeah, the strength increases are insane. I am the same way and do not think it is phycological. On tren its like you know you can do more but I think the tren definately gets you there. It is good to hear you are not experiencing any negative sides. I never have either and feel fortunate for that. But I never pushed it beyond what you are doing now. I wouldnt bump it up because there really is no reason to. You are gaining weight, gaining strength and since you have no negative sides I would just stay where you are. Keep eating and lifting heavy and you will definately reach your goal. Good luck and let us know how things ended up when you are done.

**Igifuno** · 12-06-2013, 09:39 PM

I agree with the old fart (that made me smile).. considering everything you said, keep your tren dose where it is. A little tren goes a long way.

Prami can be rough at first, I got sick as hell the first time I took it as well. Took me weeks to get the balls to take it again. Cardio can be rough with tren, that is normal, but try to continue to do at least light cardio to keep your heart and BP in check. Keep an eye on that BP as well, it can shoot up on tren. If it does, you can take arginine/citrulline to reduce it. .worked for me.

This will actually be my last tren run I think. Never used to get sides like this but I am now at 400mg/wk.

Glad you're making progress man. Keep up the good work.

**PistolPete33** · 12-06-2013, 10:04 PM

Thanks guys I appreciate the solid advice. My goal with this cycle was to see how my body responds to Tren so I can plan a cutting cycle with it during the summer. Would rather know now if I can or can't take it. So far so good. I actually skipped the Prami tonight but will go back to it tomorrow. haha

**Igifuno** · 12-06-2013, 10:06 PM

Keep us posted on your progress!

**PistolPete33** · 12-07-2013, 05:35 AM

I totally will. This stuff is pretty awesome. I'm just praying I can get over the 200 mark. I've done it a few times but can't seem to maintain it. My body always goes back to around 192ish no matter how much I eat. I'm loving the results so early in on this cycle though.

**Igifuno** · 12-07-2013, 09:24 AM

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AAS- Tips on keeping gains for the moderate user

**AlphaMike** · 12-07-2013, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

I totally will. This stuff is pretty awesome. I'm just praying I can get over the 200 mark. I've done it a few times but can't seem to maintain it. My body always goes back to around 192ish no matter how much I eat. I'm loving the results so early in on this cycle though.

I know what you mean. I'm 5'8" and off cycle I stay around 200 @12-14%....I think this is right around the natural limit for people our size.

**PistolPete33** · 12-07-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMike

I know what you mean. I'm 5'8" and off cycle I stay around 200 @12-14%....I think this is right around the natural limit for people our size.

You're prob. def. onto something. Would love to get to 215 or so but I don't know if it's possible without crazy amounts of AAS and HGH. I eat nonstop but don't want to get fat at all.

**PistolPete33** · 12-07-2013, 01:55 PM

repost.

**Hazard** · 12-07-2013, 03:05 PM

I'm 6'1 and being off for 18 months or so I was able to hold quite a bite of weight - even with no training. This Leads me to believe that my genetic limit was higher than I thought. I wasn't a massive 245 off cycle..... I had about 15% bodyfat but I never would have imagine holding that weight.

At 5'8 I don't think you need massive amounts of aas and hgh. Now..... To hold onto 215 you may need to go the Trt route but I doubt you need stupid high doses to get there.

A friend of mine is 5'7 and got to over 220-225 with aas and slin. He did run a stupid amount of insulin to get there but he was at 210 with moderate aas usage.

What kind of doses are you running and how long are your cycles? Just curious

**Hazard** · 12-07-2013, 03:07 PM

Nvm - just re-read ur first post. Ur t 600mgs test and just using tren for the first time. You'll hit your goal. If not this cycle.... Then the next one. How many cycles have you done?

**Hazard** · 12-07-2013, 03:08 PM

Also..... Don't rely so much on what you weigh. Just go by the mirror. Tren will help reduce some bodyfat but you'll get bigger. You'll look way better than ever so fvck the weight

**jdpeters** · 12-07-2013, 05:27 PM

Great posts. Been looking alot at Tren . Looking forward to trying it!

JP

**PistolPete33** · 12-07-2013, 05:34 PM

I agree Hazard and the Mirror is showing great progress. My shirts are also getting way too tight which is a good thing. The scale isn't moving much but I'm not too concerned. I just had prob. the best chest workout of my life tonight. I just got back from the gym and feeling on top of the world.

This is my 3rd cycle ever. My 2nd cycle didn't go very well but it was a great learning experience. I am on TRT so blasting and cruising is what I plan on. That said, I prob. won't cycle again until early cycle unless I do a short 6 week short ester cycle in between.

**PistolPete33** · 12-08-2013, 02:31 PM

Well, my weight is 201.5 today so I'm happy with that.

**Hazard** · 12-08-2013, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

I agree Hazard and the Mirror is showing great progress. My shirts are also getting way too tight which is a good thing. The scale isn't moving much but I'm not too concerned. I just had prob. the best chest workout of my life tonight. I just got back from the gym and feeling on top of the world.

This is my 3rd cycle ever. My 2nd cycle didn't go very well but it was a great learning experience. I am on TRT so blasting and cruising is what I plan on. That said, I prob. won't cycle again until early cycle unless I do a short 6 week short ester cycle in between.

Shit so you're still early on in this. You can make great progress. If you are going the Trt route and you plan everything out and doit correctly.... You can maximize your results and transform your body over a couple years

**PistolPete33** · 12-08-2013, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Shit so you're still early on in this. You can make great progress. If you are going the Trt route and you plan everything out and doit correctly.... You can maximize your results and transform your body over a couple years

Exactly, this is what my goal is. I want to see where I can take things over the next 2-5 years. I will be pushing 40 but I'm sure I can create a pretty insane physique. I'm happy with how I look now but loving the changes I've made this past year. TRT can be a pain in the ass but can also be a blessing in disguise.