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02-23-2014, 04:19 AM #1
Test E and Deca
need advice on cycle..
12 week cycle of 400mg Nandrolone Deconate and 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week, AI: ??? PCT: ???
I have ran this cycle before and had lots of water rentention but wasnt running an AI or SERM. only had some mild gyno but i knocked that on the head with a little arimadex till it was gone.
basically im unsure on what AI or SERM would be ideal to combat water retention and gyno if it arises, aswell as PCT....also info dosing would be awsome
(please dont lecture me on my age or hammer me about being naive in the past with pct or AI's and SERM's ect, im here to learn, not to be citasized)
Cheers!
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02-23-2014, 05:25 AM #2
Stats?
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02-23-2014, 08:37 AM #3Associate Member
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02-23-2014, 09:14 AM #4
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02-23-2014, 10:43 AM #5MONITOR
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Don't use this advice op^^^ as kronik said what your stats.
No need for stats you are 23 have a read at this link
The young and SteroidsLast edited by clarky.; 02-23-2014 at 12:03 PM.
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02-23-2014, 11:14 AM #6Associate Member
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Whats wrong with my advice? What is your advice?
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02-23-2014, 11:55 AM #7
Where Is nolva for pct
Where is hcg
Time frames
I agree with caber for prolactin
you are close but not 100%
In the future we want full stats before we input advice, person could be 18yrs 30% bf we don't have idea and we could make thing worse
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02-23-2014, 12:22 PM #9Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Derekjpapa
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02-24-2014, 07:16 AM #10
what exactly do you mean by stats? bloodwork or?
havent got bloodwork done yet but i will be sorting that out soon
age: 23
height: 5ft11
weight: 85kg at 12 percent body fatLast edited by bungledoona; 02-24-2014 at 07:18 AM.
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02-24-2014, 07:34 AM #11
at your age cycling is not recommend-you had a lot of water retention before because you have no clue what you are doing-get bw done and post it up and we can take it from there.
Your best bet is to eat clean-train hard and learn as much as possible for next year or so.
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02-24-2014, 07:37 AM #12
also ive heard that all people react differently to certain AAS, when i ran this cycle last i had no problems with libido or troubles with erections and what not. when i came off i ran an unknown pct that my bodybuilder friend was running with his cycle which was the same as mine but at lager dose. i had no problems with my libido or anything post cycle so im assuming my test didnt shut down for too long. the mild gyno i got was around week 10 and on a scale of 1-10 id say it was about a 2 compared to when i ran tren and prop I was consistantly fighting off gyno and eneded up using letro to kill it.. i dont think ill ever run tren and prop again ... also my gains off deca and test e were much better.
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wicked or anyone else whats wrong with running nolva after deca .
sorry not trying to hijack .
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02-24-2014, 11:19 AM #14Associate Member
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02-24-2014, 11:22 AM #15Originally Posted by mauz
Was that the question?
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02-24-2014, 11:31 AM #16
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02-24-2014, 11:38 AM #17Associate Member
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02-24-2014, 11:40 AM #18
Interesting. What specific properties are unique to nolva then that it facilitates estrogen rebound that clomid would not?
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02-24-2014, 11:37 PM #20
I also have read somthing like that in another thread somewhere about prolactin type gyno. i think i was researching Clomid and why people tend to run that with deca instead of nolva.
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02-25-2014, 11:21 PM #21
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I'm using Novla with a 19-nor right now. I am not taking Nolva to control my estrogen or prolactin, I'm taking anastrazole and caber for that. The only way I could see "gyno rebound" is someone using Nolva to prevent gyno but then doing nothing about the circulating estrogen in their bodies, eventually the nolva drops off and you suddenly have all of this free estrogen running around and binding to your breast tissue.
I take caber starting day 1, there is really no good reason that I know of not to.
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Originally Posted by ghettoboyd
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