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    Advice on my second cycle

    Hey guys, looking for some help here. I'm starting my second cycle this week. Dbol for the first 3 weeks, 2 a day for a kicker, then Test E 250 and Deca 250 for 12 weeks.
    Post cycle is 2 pins of HCG , 14 days after last Test pin and then 10 days after that. Also Letrozole , 1ml a day for 30 days at the end of cycle.
    How much test and deca should I use for a "lighter" cycle?
    40 yrs old, 20 yrs of training, 5'11", 183 pounds, 11% bf. I work out 5 days week, just looking to put on some good muscle for summer. Thanks......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe1
    Hey guys, looking for some help here. I'm starting my second cycle this week. Dbol for the first 3 weeks, 2 a day for a kicker, then Test E 250 and Deca 250 for 12 weeks.
    Post cycle is 2 pins of HCG , 14 days after last Test pin and then 10 days after that. Also Letrozole , 1ml a day for 30 days at the end of cycle.
    How much test and deca should I use for a "lighter" cycle?
    40 yrs old, 20 yrs of training, 5'11", 183 pounds, 11% bf. I work out 5 days week, just looking to put on some good muscle for summer. Thanks......
    That's a lot of gear for a second cycle. Dbol as a starter isn't necessary and for 3 weeks I wouldn't bother.

    Letrozole is a very harsh AI. Your aromatase inhibitor is used ON cycle. Preventing aromatization during your cycle is more important than using it post cycle and your AI can delay recovery if used as a PCT.

    All you need for PCT is tamoxifen and clomid.

    What was your first cycle?

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    Sustanon 250, once a week for 10 weeks. Took A product called Beast from Vitamin Shoppe for pct after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe1
    Sustanon 250, once a week for 10 weeks. Took A product called Beast from Vitamin Shoppe for pct after that.
    250/wk is low. That's an upper TRT dose range. I don't know "beast" or what's in it but I personally would trust most crap that is OTC.

    Have you had blood work since for last cycle?

    I strongly recommend a proper AI, PCT, and HCG .

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    Unfortunately no, i havent had my blood work done. And now i think its too late because i've been taking dbol for the past 6 days but tomorrow i am order tamoxifen and clomid. What do you think about the HCG i have for pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe1
    Unfortunately no, i havent had my blood work done. And now i think its too late because i've been taking dbol for the past 6 days but tomorrow i am order tamoxifen and clomid. What do you think about the HCG i have for pct?
    No HCG for PCT. it can delay recovery. Run it now on cycle, 250iu x2 per week.

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    OK in case no one has told you there is a golden rule we like to preach and follow here. NEVER start a cycle until you have EVERYTHING on hand meaning your PCT also. I think you can be sure of is if there might be a problem there will be. What do you do if it doesnt come in time or ????

    Drop the Deca , safe it for later. Just do the dbol and test for now and get a real pct as muscleInd said. Also agree, HCG is not for PCT, it's to be run during the cycle from the beginning.

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