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    Arimidex causing hair loss?

    So I've been on .25mg arimidex once a week to keep estrogen in check (never used steroids before, i just had naturally lower test/higher estrogen)

    With that aside, the main point is I've noticed some hair loss in my temple region (corner recession) bringing me to about a norwood 1.5 to norwood 2. Last time I checked my DHT was 40 on a scale of 30-85 but is it possible it continued to go up to higher levels? My theory is that if testosterone is not converting as much into estrogen, it will start instead converting more to DHT which would cause hair loss. It's weird though because I'm taking such a small dose (.25 a week) I wouldn't think it would be this potent.

    Any input on this? 20 years old

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    What compounds are you using? Can you list your cycle and doses.

    Estrogen levels can contribute to hair loss but generally DHT is a bigger threat.

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    That's the thing, I've never used anything before. This was just to combat naturally low T and naturally high estrogen. I thought DHT was the only thing that mattered with hair loss? If anything higher estrogen is better for hair, or is that wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon621
    That's the thing, I've never used anything before. This was just to combat naturally low T and naturally high estrogen. I thought DHT was the only thing that mattered with hair loss? If anything higher estrogen is better for hair, or is that wrong?
    When was your last blood work?

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    Vitamin D (30-100) - 68

    Testosterone Total (240-1100) - 702

    Estrogen (11-40.0) - 26.2

    Free Testosterone (0.95-4.3) - 2.62

    FSH (1.6-11) - 3.8

    LH (1.3-7.2) - 3.8

    Prolactin (0-18) - 7.4

    Cortisol (4-27) - 25.3

    SHBG (13-71) - 25

    DHT (30-85) - 40

    Growth Hormone Level (IGF-I) (281-510) - 291

    IGF Binding Protein 3 (2-4.2) - 2.9

    Seems good actually. This was months ago though. DHT probably went up since then I guess

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    Estrogens are important for many functions. In particular, estrogens modulate the activity of keratinocytes, fibroblasts, melanocytes, hair follicles, sebaceous gland function, wound healing and immune system function. A reduction or loss of estrogen decreases skin elasticity, reduced skin and follicle vascularity, causes hair loss as impairs wound healing. Aromatase inhibitor use is also associated with an increased risk for hair loss and hair thinning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Estrogens are important for many functions. In particular, estrogens modulate the activity of keratinocytes, fibroblasts, melanocytes, hair follicles, sebaceous gland function, wound healing and immune system function. A reduction or loss of estrogen decreases skin elasticity, reduced skin and follicle vascularity, causes hair loss as impairs wound healing. Aromatase inhibitor use is also associated with an increased risk for hair loss and hair thinning.
    So if I just stop taking the .25mg once a week I should be fine? I feel like even that is a pretty small amount, but I guess it's more potent than I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon621
    So if I just stop taking the .25mg once a week I should be fine? I feel like even that is a pretty small amount, but I guess it's more potent than I thought
    Well your estrogen was mid-range before. It would be informative to know where it is at now with the Arimidex in use. The dose you're using is low and the half life of Arimidex is about 50 hours. It may be dropping your estrogen to low ranges and every male is different. Some function best with low-normal ranges; others function better with high-normal ranges of estrogen.

    I see two options for you:
    1. Get blood work done and see were your levels are at first.
    2. Stop the Arimidex and see if your hair stops falling out.

    Was the Arimidex self-prescribed or directed by your physician?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Well your estrogen was mid-range before. It would be informative to know where it is at now with the Arimidex in use. The dose you're using is low and the half life of Arimidex is about 50 hours. It may be dropping your estrogen to low ranges and every male is different. Some function best with low-normal ranges; others function better with high-normal ranges of estrogen.

    I see two options for you:
    1. Get blood work done and see were your levels are at first.
    2. Stop the Arimidex and see if your hair stops falling out.

    Was the Arimidex self-prescribed or directed by your physician?
    Well my original blood test pre-arimidex was as follows:

    Free Thyroxine [FT4]. Range: 0.8 - 1.8 Result: 1.2 ng/dL

    Testosterone , Total. Range: 240 - 1048 Result: 575 ng/dL

    Free Testosterone. Range: 0.95 - 4.30 Result: 2.63 ng/dL

    Thyroid Stimulating Hormone [TSH]. Range: 0.5 - 5.20 Result: 1.49 mcIU/mL

    Free Triiodothyronine [FT3]. Range: 2.3 - 4.2 Result: 4.7 pg/mL High

    Estradiol [E2]. Range: 0.0 - 40.0 Result: 46.0 pg/mL (High)

    Insulin Like Growth Factor I. Range: 182 - Seven Hundred Eighty (censored) Result: 498 ng/mL

    Arimidex was directed as an option by my physician, we agreed to try it and see what would happen. So it looked like it worked pretty well actually, minus the hair loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon621
    Well my original blood test pre-arimidex was as follows:

    Free Thyroxine [FT4]. Range: 0.8 - 1.8 Result: 1.2 ng/dL

    Testosterone , Total. Range: 240 - 1048 Result: 575 ng/dL

    Free Testosterone. Range: 0.95 - 4.30 Result: 2.63 ng/dL

    Thyroid Stimulating Hormone [TSH]. Range: 0.5 - 5.20 Result: 1.49 mcIU/mL

    Free Triiodothyronine [FT3]. Range: 2.3 - 4.2 Result: 4.7 pg/mL High

    Estradiol [E2]. Range: 0.0 - 40.0 Result: 46.0 pg/mL (High)

    Insulin Like Growth Factor I. Range: 182 - Seven Hundred Eighty (censored) Result: 498 ng/mL

    Arimidex was directed as an option by my physician, we agreed to try it and see what would happen. So it looked like it worked pretty well actually, minus the hair loss
    Are you taking any other supplements? Anything containing zinc or selenium? These can decrease estrogen over time.

    Your pre-adex BW looks pretty good. Estrogen is clearly high. T3 is a bit high but not at a level I would consider a "panic value".

    How long have you been on adex now? How long since your pre-adex BW? I would think a visit to your MD would be reasonable as a follow up to the adex Rx to see if adjustments are needed or if its best you discontinue it's use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Are you taking any other supplements? Anything containing zinc or selenium? These can decrease estrogen over time.

    Your pre-adex BW looks pretty good. Estrogen is clearly high. T3 is a bit high but not at a level I would consider a "panic value".

    How long have you been on adex now? How long since your pre-adex BW? I would think a visit to your MD would be reasonable as a follow up to the adex Rx to see if adjustments are needed or if its best you discontinue it's use.
    Just taking Vitamin D-3 for now as I was actually deficient before. I've been on adex since last July, so it's been quite a while. I'm just worried if I discontinue use my estrogen will rebound and go back to higher levels. But if that's the cost for keeping my hair then I'm fine with that I guess. I'm just surprised .25mg once a week did much at all to begin with, let alone cause some hair loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon621
    Just taking Vitamin D-3 for now as I was actually deficient before. I've been on adex since last July, so it's been quite a while. I'm just worried if I discontinue use my estrogen will rebound and go back to higher levels. But if that's the cost for keeping my hair then I'm fine with that I guess. I'm just surprised .25mg once a week did much at all to begin with, let alone cause some hair loss.
    I'd schedule a follow up with your MD for blood work and see where your levels are at now.

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