trying to plan my first cycle with t400

**Shreddes** · 03-10-2014, 09:29 PM

can someone tell me what a cycle would look like with t400 dose and frequency and what ever else I would need during the cycle and including a proper pct aswell thankyou

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2014, 09:37 PM

How many cycles have you run before this?

**scotty51312** · 03-10-2014, 09:40 PM

^^x2 and your age? stats including bodyfat% and goals?

**Shreddes** · 03-10-2014, 09:56 PM

I haven't done a cycle before I have access to a large amount of this and this is what im going to start with I am 33 no health issues at all 5 foot 9 180 pound body fat 14.8 percent daily menu
meal 1 whole flake oatmeal cup and a half
meal 2 shake
meal 3 one whole chicken breast with one cup brown rice and one and half cup veggies
meal 4 protein bar two table spoons peanut butter
meal 6 shake
meal 7chicken\steak\fish same as above with brown rice and veggies
meal 8 shake with protein and carb sup
goals reach 200 205 would be nice but not all at once unless that is possible

**mikey hulk** · 03-10-2014, 10:07 PM

How many calories are you aiming for ?
What's your break down look like?

**Shreddes** · 03-10-2014, 10:11 PM

I haven't done a cycle before I have access to a large amount of this and this is what im going to start with I am 33 no health issues at all 5 foot 9 180 pound body fat 14.8 percent daily menu
meal 1 whole flake oatmeal cup and a half
meal 2 shake
meal 3 one whole chicken breast with one cup brown rice and one and half cup veggies
meal 4 protein bar two table spoons peanut butter
meal 6 shake
meal 7chicken\steak\fish same as above with brown rice and veggies
meal 8 shake with protein and carb sup

**mikey hulk** · 03-10-2014, 10:12 PM

Macro?

**Shreddes** · 03-10-2014, 10:17 PM

no less than 3000 no more than 3800 I have a company building houses so some days like building wall or sheathing a roof i tend to eat more no junk though some snaking in-between or when im hungry or low on energy almonds cottage cheese fat free salad with dressing ect ect

**Shreddes** · 03-10-2014, 10:21 PM

don't know my macros

**mikey hulk** · 03-10-2014, 10:26 PM

That really doesn't seem like enough food in your layout
I eat 2700 calories at 250lbs and consume much more than you
All clean all the time

You may want to hit the diet section for a check up

As for your cycle
If first cycle
400mg a week (will be fine)
200 Monday 200 Thursday
Aromas in 12.5-25 mg daily
Run a standard pct of
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Keep an eye on blood pressure
Get blood work
Prior
During
Post cycle

**mikey hulk** · 03-10-2014, 10:28 PM

If your not around 25+ don't screw up your body
Train insane

**Shreddes** · 03-10-2014, 10:40 PM

okay when do i start the aromas same day day after? and how do i know how much to use and when do i star the pct sorry dont understand 100 when how long 50 when how long ect ect 40 when how long 20 when how long ect ect and thank you for your help and why do you say if not 25+ im 33 don't wreck your body ? what do you mean

**mikey hulk** · 03-10-2014, 10:50 PM

I think you may need to do a bit more reading
Remember steroids are not magic
Fully understand something before doing it
Good luck

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2014, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by mikey hulk

I think you may need to do a bit more reading
Remember steroids are not magic
Fully understand something before doing it
Good luck

This is what happens when you spoon feed.

He should be educating not medicating.

**scotty51312** · 03-10-2014, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

This is what happens when you spoon feed.

He should be educating not medicating.

I completely agree. I'm glad to see the board still doesn't condone spoon feeding. Make people stick around for a few days to read the forum. Almost every question has been asked before, sometimes its just a matter of making the OP look for it, and they learn along the way that they aren't ready for AAS

**mikey hulk** · 03-10-2014, 11:03 PM

Sorry about that guys been going through so many posts must have mixed a few together

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2014, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by mikey hulk

Sorry about that guys been going through so many posts must have mixed a few together

No harm in advising him and keeping him clear of risks as much as possible. I held back from replying because I've seen too much of guys lacking complete knowledge thinking steroids do nothing more than build muscle that I had to wait to reply.

OP, you're jumping in to this far too quickly. If you don't know how to cycle correctly with proper ancillaries and a PCT, you simply haven't invested enough time or commitment in to anabolic compounds. The decision is premature and risky.

For the record.....T400 can be unpleasant to pin for some people. The higher concentration and multiple esters often creates more PIP and side effects can present a greater challenge to manage since you'd be adjusting all esters and not one in a dose adjustment. T400 is NOT for beginners.

**scotty51312** · 03-10-2014, 11:15 PM

I learned that the hard way ^^ my first cycle was t450 that felt like I was injecting very thick rubbing alcohol. I ended up having to cut it half and half with sterile grape seed oil

**MuscleInk** · 03-11-2014, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by scotty51312

I learned that the hard way ^^ my first cycle was t450 that felt like I was injecting very thick rubbing alcohol. I ended up having to cut it half and half with sterile grape seed oil

Yes sir. I have a few vials of 400 that I use infrequently. I learned quickly that 800mg (2ml) at one time in the same muscle can be extremely uncomfortable! Now, if/when I use it, I split the dose (.5ml) into a couple of spots and only after I've heated the oil. Then my wife massages the hell out of the area immediately after.

**clarky.** · 03-11-2014, 01:53 AM

Have a read at these links shredds if you have not already wait on the aas the now read learn know what you are doing here.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

**Shreddes** · 03-11-2014, 07:54 PM

Im not looking to jump in head first i know that steriods are not magic and they take carfull planning I was have trouble finding info on just t400 so i thought i would ask and i appreciate and value your guys input you guys are the pros after all what about sustonon 300 to start train very hard and heavy with very slow results would like to speed things up and your right my knowledge on this subject is incomplete and i have read a lot of mixed messages and inconsistent info believe you me my research is not complete again what about sustonon 300 to start any thoughts or experience with this product

**MuscleInk** · 03-11-2014, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Shreddes

Im not looking to jump in head first i know that steriods are not magic and they take carfull planning I was have trouble finding info on just t400 so i thought i would ask and i appreciate and value your guys input you guys are the pros after all what about sustonon 300 to start train very hard and heavy with very slow results would like to speed things up and your right my knowledge on this subject is incomplete and i have read a lot of mixed messages and inconsistent info believe you me my research is not complete again what about sustonon 300 to start any thoughts or experience with this product

You'd be better off with a single ester, propionate , cypionate , or enthanate. Blends like sustanon , super test/T400 have several compounds with various ester lengths at different concentrations. If you encounter side effects, you won't know which compound is responsible and adjusting the dose affects all esters unequally. The best recommendation for a first cycle is to use a single ester like the ones mentioned herein so you can properly gauge how the drug and your body reacts.

**scotty51312** · 03-11-2014, 08:19 PM

I agree with that^^ Id say run heavier esters enth, cyp, ud, Unless you're looking forward to pinning yourself every day.

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Yes sir. I have a few vials of 400 that I use infrequently. I learned quickly that 800mg (2ml) at one time in the same muscle can be extremely uncomfortable! Now, if/when I use it, I split the dose (.5ml) into a couple of spots and only after I've heated the oil. Then my wife massages the hell out of the area immediately after.

If you're pinning 800mg of test in one barrel youre more advanced than I am bro. Never ran test over 700mg/wk But i may have had 500mg of Deca going with it

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**MuscleInk** · 03-11-2014, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by scotty51312

I agree with that^^ Id say run heavier esters enth, cyp, ud, Unless you're looking forward to pinning yourself every day.

If you're pinning 800mg of test in one barrel youre more advanced than I am bro. Never ran test over 700mg/wk But i may have had 500mg of Deca going with it

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Agreed. Only short esters I use now are TNE for pre-workout.

**bodybuilder88** · 03-12-2014, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Shreddes

I haven't done a cycle before I have access to a large amount of this and this is what im going to start with I am 33 no health issues at all 5 foot 9 180 pound body fat 14.8 percent daily menu meal 1 whole flake oatmeal cup and a half meal 2 shake meal 3 one whole chicken breast with one cup brown rice and one and half cup veggies meal 4 protein bar two table spoons peanut butter meal 6 shake meal 7chicken\steak\fish same as above with brown rice and veggies meal 8 shake with protein and carb sup goals reach 200 205 would be nice but not all at once unless that is possible

I know it's been said already bro but that diet is horrendous. There are guys here, myself included that one of our single meals is more cals than you first 2-3 meals put together. Where's the protein in meal 1? Drop the shake in meal 2 and pound back chicken and rice or beef and potatoes leave the shake for post workout only. Get rid of the protein bar at meal 4, 98% of protein bars are just glorified chocolate bars, get some chicken turkey, fish or beef with some rice or potato in here. Meal 5 looks like it's post workout so keep that a shake with some carbs. Meal 5 looks good, meal 7 go to real food again drop the shake. Real food is best especially for growth, trust me it will make a huge difference in your physique.