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    Oral Turinabol vs Winstrol Effects & toxicity

    In your opinion which would be the safer choice between turinabol and winstrol related to managing sides and liver toxicity. Both are made to survive the first pass through the liver, from what ive researched they seem to have a high level of toxicity.

    Which would have yield better results added to a cutting cycle with some test?

    ultimately, if all things were equal i would go with the injectable winni.

    Primo & masteron are not the best options for me as im trying to stay away from dht derived products.

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    stats?

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    Op just to let you know winny is also a dht derivative.

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    Are you staying away from dht derivatives because of concern for hairloss or prostate issues?

    *note can you please list your age?
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    im 27, Dht because of hairloss. I get the futility of it all, doing test.. worried about hair loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dk94 View Post
    im 27, Dht because of hairloss. I get the futility of it all, doing test.. worried about hair loss.
    Tbol is mild. I've ran both. Winny lowers SHBG which is good for keeping sexual sides under control. The honest truth about winny in my opinion is it doesn't do anything when you're over 10% bodyfat. Other than make me solid like concrete the visible effects just weren't there.

    Winny is also known for its high level of liver toxicity. Much more harsh than Tbol. Why haven't you considered anavar ? Or just straight test?

    If you're not planning on competing I'd personally go with var or tbol

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    the supplies of anavar seem to be too inconsistent where im from. Id rather pay for tbol and get tbol than pay for var and get winni or tbol or something.

    Im not planning on competing in bodybuilding ever. i compete in kickboxing once in a while and stay active, just cycle for the feel of it and the fun of it.

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    I love winny myself and it is great to finish out a cycle. Tbol is on my wont touch again list with EQ just too weak for me.

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    I loves me some Tbol!

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    Tbol for me. Next to Anavar , it's the best oral steroid available today. Makes Dianabol look stupid.

    However, you're comparing apples and oranges. Makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Tbol for me. Next to Anavar , it's the best oral steroid available today. Makes Dianabol look stupid.

    However, you're comparing apples and oranges. Makes no sense.

    That's the truth!

    I really really like tbol too. Stevie wonder, or Eric Clapton should write a song about it.

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