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    Slow injection scar tissue

    It's always been like this but I'm building up alot of scar tissue I do minimum 3cc per shot as I don't want to waste pinning smaller dosages with my long esters ill do around 15cc per cycle.

    I know not using that injection site for awhile does help but are there methods like maybe using a heat pack over the scar tissue before u injecting helps?

    Sometimes especially with my delts as they've been hit the hardest I can be sitting there at worse upto 10-15mins to inject sometimes the needle will be rejected and want to come out. But I still get it in. Iv tried to relax my muscle by messaging it I guess that helps but any other methods people might know plz let me know.

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    IMO I would say dont use more than 1ml maybe 2ml in the delts depending on how big they are. To much fluid in the delts can cause pain. Just sick the needle in your butt, but not your butt hole like one kid was doing.

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    Same problem started shooting legs for a wile will soon try delts again
    Ever try lats

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    I have found doing smaller volume injection more often with smaller pins work better for me. Rotating sites too

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    I like to do many diff sites myself.

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    Sounds like you need to try a new site bro. lol

    I use 16 different ones and rotate. I don't recommend the calves.

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    Time to start using the calves. J/K

    Yeah it can get tough, especially when between cycle you are on HRT and using HCG . Seems like your pinning almost every day.

    I'm having better luck with 27g and a lot of rotation and I think there may be something to the injecting smaller amounts at a time. I know it sees like doing it all at once would save time but in the long run maybe not.

    I'm sure/hope you also inject SLOW. I think injecting quickly also builds up scar tissue inside causing the rejection so injecting slow gives it more time to absorb without the trauma to the surrounding muscle.

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    I've noticed that injecting 1mL or 1.5mL works best for me. Less pain less scar tissue.

    When I change up sights I'll do delts one week then thighs the next week and third week glutes.

    Each week I massage the other sites not being used and stretch for a few mins and breaks the scar tissue up nicely. Not a light massage either. A specific spot massage digging in deep

    Also depends how stable the needle is when injecting. If it moves around a lot = more trauma = more scar tissue

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    Yeah like I said I do minimum 3cc, I mainly like doing delts, chest, glute shots only.

    I feel messaging and also trying to relax the muscle not being tense but like in relax state helps pin easily, pain doesn't bother me at all I don't really get pain that just comes down to your source and what quality oils they have.

    Anyway doesn't seem like much I can do it's not bad just annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hephens
    Yeah like I said I do minimum 3cc, I mainly like doing delts, chest, glute shots only. I feel messaging and also trying to relax the muscle not being tense but like in relax state helps pin easily, pain doesn't bother me at all I don't really get pain that just comes down to your source and what quality oils they have. Anyway doesn't seem like much I can do it's not bad just annoying.
    3cc is volume not dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk
    3cc is volume not dose.
    That's right I'm only talking about the amount of oil I'm injecting is minimum 3cc(3ml) what does dose have anything to do with injecting nothing but pain. As Iv mentioned I dont get pain from injecting I am building scar tissue from multiple pinning and using 3cc each time.

    I don't feel it's how much oil is going in this is a pin related issue if you pinning the tissue it will be scared... The more oil you inject the more time it needs to disperse and separate from the muscle .

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