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04-09-2014, 09:06 PM #1
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Past Experience with Steroid and a Beginners cycle !!!
Hi all the members.
Before i seek the advice and suggestions from the experienced here, i do wanna let you all know a bit about my past experience with steroids . I never had any cycle before but i did experience a Deca shot in my teen which shrank my testes and junk the same night and never went back to normal. I never considered having a treatment for it which was really ignorant of me and now it’s too late. But anyway, i am 26 now and decided to go on a cycle.
I have done my research on my first ever cycle. I tried finding answers to certain questions but due to a lot of forums and million different experiences, i got tangled up instead of cleared. I had been reading on this forum a lot and found much appropriate to discuss it first here than anywhere else.
So here is going to be my cycle and some of my basic questions are along with it.
Week 1 - 12: Test-E Dose: 400mg/Wk in two shots (using less quantity due to fear of gyno)
Week 1 – 6: D-Bol Dose: 5-10mg/Day (Please advise if this is okay still)
Q: The only reason i am using it in a very small quantity is to minimize its side effects specially high B.P. Guys tell me if it’s a good idea?
Q: Now please do let me know that if i am going to use AI during the cycle, will the following dose be okay considering my lower D-Bol dose?
Week 1 – 12: Aromasin Dose: 6.25mg ED
And should i keep that up until my last T-shot or carry it through all the way till my PCT ends?
HERE IS MY PCT PLAN:
Week 15 – 16: Nolvadex Dose: 40mg/day
Week 17: Same Dose: 20mg/day
Week 18: Same Dose: 10mg/day
Q: Mostly people say to use both Clomid and Nolvadex on PCT, is it a good idea, if Yes then how does my clomid dose look like?
Week 15 – 16: Clomid Dose: 150mg/day
Week 17: Same Dose: 100mg/day
Week 18: Same Dose: 50mg/day
Q: Now one school of thought says to use HCG and other says it’s not a good idea and another says use it when necessary, Now i really need an expert advice on HCG whether to use it or not because i don’t want to screw up my HPTA?
Q: What possible things can go wrong even if cycle and diet is proper? In order to avoid that, what kinds of medicines should i have handy? What precautions should i take?
Q: Can i discontinue my cycle right in somewhere due to its swear side affects? Will my PCT have to change and how? I mean, do i have to wait for 2 weeks after my discontinuation to start PCT?
Guys, i really appreciate your help here. It’s going to be my first ever steroid cycle so kind of a paranoid. I am going to get my blood test done before injecting my first shot. Although i had one terrible experience in my teenage due to lack of knowledge. Thank you all!!!
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04-09-2014, 09:27 PM #2
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04-10-2014, 10:45 AM #3
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Thanks for replying. I am 7% body fat, 5'10" and 162lbs. I have been working out for 4 years solid. I feel i lack in strength so thought it would be better to get a cycle to increase my strength for now. The only reason i am using less D-Bol is because it increases B.P and cholestral drastically and i wanna keep that on a low. So you are suggesting NOT to go with Clomid because i can recover with Nolva? I am confused about HCG so thought to ask you guys for first cycle PCT. I am only scared of messing with my HPTA that's why i wanna know from expereinced before doing a shot.
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04-10-2014, 08:28 PM #4
Really not ready for this buddy as your questions show a lack of knowledge. I did not say no clomid I only suggest your dosage was off. Obviously don't bother with the dbol as your dose is so low it will have little or no effect.
At your weight and body fat if accurate no wonder why your not gaining. Sounds like you need some food hit the nutrition and learn to eat.
You need to eat and train for the goal bro.
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04-11-2014, 08:09 PM #5
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Well, you are right about the Nutrition for sure. I still need to put a lot into it but my cycle won't be happening unless i fix my diet. Just been busy with extra time work for a year or so but now i started taking my diet seriously again!! I disagree with you about my knowledge on first cycle, i have taken a hit by Deca once and do you think i won't be cautious this time. Hell NO. I did my research and my questions reflect the confusion i get from people regarding dosage and type. Now asking about that dose of clomid is because i am already using Nolva and don't wanna use two at the high level. Can you please answer my other questions bro?
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04-11-2014, 08:30 PM #6
clomid is too high at 150mgs, theres a lot of good help here but the experts arent interested in spoon feeding, just refining. They helped me out a lot. I would look into Tbol if your concerned about side effects. Your still light, you could still gain weight a a lot of weight natrually so many people would advise against going on aas right now. But its your body and your choice, if your cycle and pct is on point it will only be a matter of wasted gear and not danger if you cycle at 162
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04-11-2014, 08:33 PM #7
check out this article regarding hcg ,
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html
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04-11-2014, 08:53 PM #8
Clomid and nolva work very well together to restart normal function. With your proposed cycle I would dose as follows:
Pct 4 weeks
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Your aromasin is fine or you could run it (eod) every other day at 12.5
Still lose the dbol
Last I personally feel your diet is more important than the cycle. Nutrition and hard work at the gym will give you long lasting results.
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04-13-2014, 03:03 PM #9
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Thanks guys. I really appreciate your help. I have read a lot here but again reading articles and threads just mix your opinion that's why i need experienced advice. I won't get any AAS shot until i reach 170 and get my nutrition in line.
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04-13-2014, 05:31 PM #10
He is right about the diet, you won't see much in the way of gains on cycle with an inadequate diet. When you do cycle, do not forget about the HCG .
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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