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04-13-2014, 09:29 PM #1
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12 Week Bulk & Cut Cycle Decisions...Help Needed!
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04-14-2014, 02:58 AM #2
Age?
I'm guessing you have an extensive cycle history if you are seriously thinking option 2 or 3? Although the comments made in points 3 & 4 indicate a serious lack of research and suggest you haven't run a cycle?NO SOURCES GIVEN
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04-14-2014, 03:40 AM #3
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04-14-2014, 04:12 PM #4
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I'm 23, I don't have an extensive cycle history however I have run a test only 12 week cycle 2 years ago & run dbol , test & clen last year.
To an extent I have lack of knowledge in certain areas which I'll admit, hence why I have come to ask for help...as after weeks of research and realising that everyone has very different views on everything I have asked about here I thought it easier to open my cycles up to criticism.
Thanks for your reply guys.
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04-14-2014, 04:22 PM #5
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Originally Posted by JonnyRan
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04-14-2014, 04:59 PM #6
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23 is still young to be hitting the aas. AAS are not a quick fix for summer. I would wait, but if you are going to use what are your goals and stats?
Here are some questions you need to ask yourself.
1. You didn't say if you wanted. Its bulk OR cut.
2. Do have hcg and an AI while your on cycle (must have in hand before you start cycle)
3. A good PCT program? (must have in hand before you start cycle)
4. Have the money to run a cycle with all the gear and FOOD that you will need.
5. Most important - The discipline to train, eat proper and abstain from things like alcohol, drugs, partying, late nights out so you get the proper amount of sleep?
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04-15-2014, 05:36 AM #7
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Hey tren monster & bigtahl, I appreciate your responses.
I've been lifting more than 3 years, I'd say its nearer to 4 but don't let that lead you to think I have a lack of experience because I don't mess around when I go to the gym and never have. I have always trained hard, and eaten clean consistently. I do agree however after speaking to a few friends about this cycle I've removed tren from my mind until I am much more experienced. Also, thank you for your advice it is appreciated.
BigTahl, Although some people advise 25 is the correct age to start, I personally don't see a huge risk in a clean 12 wk cycle providing all the necessary precautions are taken.
1. I believe a lot of people run both cycles pre-comp with good results and I've seen some good members results in the past so I think to an extent you can hold the gains and lose body fat at the end of the cycle without too much damage?
2. I'll show you exactly what I plan to do at the end of this post.
4 + 5. Yes I'll be able to buy whatever is necessary, in preparation for this I stopped drinking completely a few weeks ago and begun making sure I get my 8 hours each night.
Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10
Dianabol - 30mg per day, weeks 1-4
Clen 120mcg e/d weeks 6-12 (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) - Although I will be building up to this dosage from the start..not starting on 120mcg.
Milk thistle during Dbol
Tamoxifen and every fourth day during cycle have a tamoxi
PCT: 3 pills tamoxifen first day of pct
Followed by 2 a day next days
Then one a day ten days after that
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04-15-2014, 01:24 PM #8
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Originally Posted by JonnyRan
I'd add in something other than milk thistle.
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04-15-2014, 01:32 PM #9
I personnally love clen abd feel great on it.
You need to try to see, but if I were you I would look into T3.
Good luck
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04-15-2014, 10:42 PM #10
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04-16-2014, 05:19 AM #11
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04-16-2014, 06:14 PM #12
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