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    First REAL cycle question

    haven't posted in a while but have some questions
    So here is the deal, 29 years old, 5'11 212lbs approx 18% bf, not exact but I've had it checked enough that I'm pretty good at estimating, been lifting since i was 17. I more then understand nutrition needs but looking to take the step up. my past i have only done Tren and mass (ACL) when still purchasable, shockingly seen great gains, about a year later did dbol only at 40 a day and again, against what everyone told me, I had amazing gains and kept most of it. I seem to have great reactions to most supplements and my cycle I'm planning is as follows, and any advice on changes in amounts is welcomed. Though i am fairly set on what I'm using so far, have considered winny over dbol for the more dry gains but i remember loving how i felt on dbol so kind of stuck on that lol

    16 weeks test e
    300mg week 1 and 2
    week 3-16 500mg
    week 1 to 8
    dbol at 40mg a day

    my biggest question is the right AI to use, i prefer to get those from the sponsor page and I'm looking at stane, or liquidex. so help there on the right option and dosage would be awesome. also for pct, if an AI is fine or if something like nolva is needed. if hcg would be needed.

    I may in the future if I'm pleased with the results try other things such us tren or deca but for the time being this sounds like a normal beginner cycle.

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    Why are you starting at 300mg then going to 500mg and 16 weeks is a long cycle??
    Yes arr has nolva clomid for pct and has a ai

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    And yes get so hcg especially if run 16 weeks and get your bf % down

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    thats just what i was told to do by a buddy with more experience then me. If its smarter to just start right at 500 i can do that as well

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    I'm normally lower but I have been trying to bulk naturally the last month before i start

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    Yes stay at 500 straight thru why mess with you blood levels and hormones more than you allready are

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    oh and again my time frame is advice from the same guy, i was originally looking at 12 weeks

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    so nova and clomid pct, maybe liquidex during, and hcg starting say week 6 on a 12 week cycle?

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    yes 12 weeks is perfect dbol sounds fine get some hcg and a ai and start them from the get go. Pct is as important as the cycle so make sure it's perfect

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    thanks, ya even though i dont have the gear experience i always preach pct to people lol

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    ok perfect, i can get the hcg with everything else, was going to order an ai today, just not sure the best one to go with

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    That's too long. Unless you up the dose, your body will get used to the compound and your growth will slow down. 10 weeks is much better.

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    @clarky, thank you, i have read through that, everything is in order, wasn't sure how things differ adding the dbol

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    thank you, got it in my cart lol

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    think i have this all in order now, stick with 500 on the test e (250x2 a week) 40mg ed Dbol . liquidex during, clomid and nolva pct. last thing i would be curious about would be if its ok to start back on t3 or clen /t3 during pct? or should that wait

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    also shortening to 12 weeks

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    t3 would be fine but dbol going to give u some water weight read austinite t3 write under his data base
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    one last question, not starting a new thread since its about this cycle. I got dbol in capsule form. now before i had pills that were great. My source is very well known around here for great stuff so i dont question there realness, but the issue is they only come in 50mg capsules, which is clearly not going to work, at 2 times daily thats 100mg, i was shooting for 40ed x 4 weeks. now when i did it before i was taking 75mg a day and had zero sides and awesome gains but i still feel my max a day while on test e should be MAX 50ed is it possible to break a capsule into 2 servings?

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    Of coarse I would take half in morning and other half before hitting gym at night.
    Any luck on hcg ??
    Did read austinite's write up on hcg

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    yes i can get the hcg , thats going to be a lot of research on its own it seems as far as preparing it lol. but thats 2 weeks out so putting of the cycle until its here.
    Yes i went through and read a few of those blogs actually. Tons of awesome info. Have the first cycle blog bookmarked for reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    Of coarse I would take half in morning and other half before hitting gym at night.
    Any luck on hcg ??
    Did read austinite's write up on hcg
    on the talk half part though, should i get some empty smaller caps and fill them with half? would take some time but i would be ok with it if thats the smart way to go, since they are capsules and not pills

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    I wouldn't bother splitting caps bro there is no way of knowing what your dose will be that way because the producer of your gear uses fillers mixed in with the actual compound so like I said it cant be done accurately imho...just take the dbol once a day and be done with it...your over thinking this...you will not be able to tell the difference anyways...
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    lol ok cool, just wanting it as a kick start anyways so ill stick to one a day. thank u!

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