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    Post My 2nd Cycle Looking for some help on lean Bulk cycle

    I am planning for 12 weeks.

    Week 1 - 12 - Test P (100mg EOD)
    Week 1 - 10 - Bolda (500mg 2 Shots of 250 mg week)
    Week 11 - 12 - Mestrol (100mg EOD)
    week 1-4 Anavar 40 ED
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40 ED

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    Week 1 - 10 - Test E (500mg 2 Shots of 250 mg week)
    Week 1 - 10 - Bolda (500mg 2 Shots of 250 mg week)
    Week 11 - 12 - Test P (100mg EOD)
    Week 11 - 12 - Mestrol (100mg EOD)
    week 1-4 Anavar 40 ED
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40 ED

    Please provide some help if any changes are required and let me know which one will give me the best results.

    Do I need to use AI on Cycle, If yes Dosage please.
    what Liver protection should I use with the Dosage.

    PCT after 3 days of last injection Nolvodex therapy
    week 1- 40 mg ED
    week 2 - 40 mg ED
    week 3 - 20 mg ED
    week 4- 20 mg ED

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    Question Need some good advice ASAP Cycling a steroid and staking

    Need some good advice ASAP as will be start from next Monday 19th May 2014

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    To much for a 2nd cycle.Test only maybe Var.But I am sure test only with a good diet would be just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    To much for a 2nd cycle.Test only maybe Var.But I am sure test only with a good diet would be just fine.
    Thanks songdog for your comments.

    My target is to get a lean muscle tissue and size so please recommend if any changes are required or if any protection is require staying away from Sid effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    To much for a 2nd cycle.Test only maybe Var.But I am sure test only with a good diet would be just fine.
    Please advice on this songdog

    Please check

    Testosterone -Pro 100 mg 3 shots EOD
    Equipoise 250mg 2 Shots p/w
    Anavar 40mg ED
    Arimidex .5 EOD

    PCT after the 3 days of last injection.

    HCG 1000IU 1 Shot P/W After from 8 to 12 Week the 13 week 3rd day 2500IU and 5th day 2500IU
    Clomid : 100,100,50,50 for 4 Weeks
    Nolvodex: 40,40,20,20 for 4 Weeks

    Let me know if it is good to go please & recommend if I need to change something

    I would like to know can I take Equipoise 500mg in a 1 Shot rather than 250 mg 2 shots just to cut down pinning

    and will it be good to use Test-p or test E if I need better result and less pinning to go for 12 weeks

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    Thanks songdog for your comments.

    My target is to get a lean muscle tissue and size so please recommend if any changes are required or if any protection is require staying away from Sid effects.

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    to much stuff as songdog said. You do need a ai like arimidex .5 eod and I did not see any mention of hcg .
    Now run test and maybe a oral to kick start or end cycle not both ---even though var is not that toxic there is blood work posted around here were after 6 weeks it kill liver values and why take a chance?
    Also pct is wrong nolva and clomid is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    to much stuff as songdog said. You do need a ai like arimidex .5 eod and I did not see any mention of hcg .
    Now run test and maybe a oral to kick start or end cycle not both ---even though var is not that toxic there is blood work posted around here were after 6 weeks it kill liver values and why take a chance?
    Also pct is wrong nolva and clomid is best.
    Thanks Derekjpapa,

    Appreciate your comment ,

    Please check the below cycle and let me know if we still need to change this or if possible you can recommend some this better than this.
    Weeks Testosterone -Pro Equipoise Anavar Arimidex
    1 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    2 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    3 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    4 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    5 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    6 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    7 100/eod 500mg 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    8 100/eod 500mg 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    9 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    10 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    11 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    12 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod

    PCT after the 3 days of last injection.

    Week Nolvodex ED Clomid ED HCG ED
    1 20 mg 150 mg 1000iu ED
    2 20 mg 100 mg 2500iu 1st & 3rd Day
    3 20 mg 50 mg
    4 20 mg
    Last edited by sahil848; 05-10-2014 at 07:46 AM.

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    Test E 500mg p/w and maybe front load with prop if you are feeling bad ass.

    Don't forget to eat properly........otherwise you would be wasting your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Small View Post
    Test E 500mg p/w and maybe front load with prop if you are feeling bad ass.

    Don't forget to eat properly........otherwise you would be wasting your time.

    Please check

    Weeks Testosterone -Pro Equipoise Anavar Arimidex
    1 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    2 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    3 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    4 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    5 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    6 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    7 100/eod 500mg 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    8 100/eod 500mg 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    9 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    10 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    11 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    12 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod

    PCT after the 3 days of last injection.

    Week Nolvodex ED Clomid ED HCG ED
    1 20 mg 150 mg 1000iu ED
    2 20 mg 100 mg 2500iu 1st & 3rd Day
    3 20 mg 50 mg
    4 20 mg

    Let me know what should I change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Small View Post
    Test E 500mg p/w and maybe front load with prop if you are feeling bad ass.

    Don't forget to eat properly........otherwise you would be wasting your time.
    Please check

    Weeks Testosterone -Pro Equipoise Anavar Arimidex
    1 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    2 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    3 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    4 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    5 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    6 100/eod 500mg 0.5mg/eod
    7 100/eod 500mg 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    8 100/eod 500mg 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    9 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    10 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    11 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod
    12 100/eod 50mg/ed 0.5mg/eod

    PCT after the 3 days of last injection.

    Week Nolvodex ED Clomid ED HCG ED
    1 20 mg 150 mg 1000iu ED
    2 20 mg 100 mg 2500iu 1st & 3rd Day
    3 20 mg 50 mg
    4 20 mg

    Let me know what should I change

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    I personally get sides at over 75 mg clomid - I could not image 150 mg

    Go 100/100/50/50 clomid
    Use hcg through out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    I personally get sides at over 75 mg clomid - I could not image 150 mg

    Go 100/100/50/50 clomid
    Use hcg through out
    Week Nolvodex ED Clomid ED
    1 20 mg 100 mg
    2 20 mg 100 mg
    3 20 mg 50 mg
    4 20 mg 50 mg

    HCG P/W 1000 IU

    Will this work and please comment on cycle for 12 weeks do I need to change any thing Like Test p with Test e for 500mg p/W

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    I personally get sides at over 75 mg clomid - I could not image 150 mg

    Go 100/100/50/50 clomid
    Use hcg through out
    Hello Derekjpapa - Please check if this works good now.

    Please check

    Testosterone -Pro 100 mg 3 shots EOD
    Equipoise 250mg 2 Shots p/w
    Anavar 40mg ED
    Arimidex .5 EOD

    PCT after the 3 days of last injection.

    HCG 1000IU 1 Shot P/W
    Clomid : 100,100,50,50 for 4 Weeks
    Nolvodex: 40,40,20,20 for 4 Weeks

    Let me know if it is good to go please & recommend if I need to change something

    I would like to know can I take Equipoise 500mg in a 1 Shot rather than 250 mg 2 shots just to cut down pinning

    and will it be good to use Test-p or test E if I need better result and less pinning to go for 12 weeks cycle.

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    No hcg durning pct it will keep u shut down -use on cycle 500iu a week split into 2 shots 3 days prior to pct
    I like test e because I hate pinning I fine it annoying so I would pinning it twice a week in the same pin as eq
    Also don't run anavar that long it's going to mess up your liver
    Run it first or last 6 weeks
    Test p is a fast ester though and some people prefer fast ester kick in time is quicker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    No hcg durning pct it will keep u shut down -use on cycle 500iu a week split into 2 shots 3 days prior to pct
    I like test e because I hate pinning I fine it annoying so I would pinning it twice a week in the same pin as eq
    Also don't run anavar that long it's going to mess up your liver
    Run it first or last 6 weeks
    Test p is a fast ester though and some people prefer fast ester kick in time is quicker
    If I use Test-E my PCT will start after how many days last Injection

    And Do I need to USE HCG for 12 week 250 IU 2 shots every week
    And can I use Test -p and EQ also in same injection as Test - E with EQ

    Please reply
    Last edited by sahil848; 05-10-2014 at 11:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    No hcg durning pct it will keep u shut down -use on cycle 500iu a week split into 2 shots 3 days prior to pct
    I like test e because I hate pinning I fine it annoying so I would pinning it twice a week in the same pin as eq
    Also don't run anavar that long it's going to mess up your liver
    Run it first or last 6 weeks
    Test p is a fast ester though and some people prefer fast ester kick in time is quicker
    If I use Test-E my PCT will start after how many days last Injection

    And Do I need to USE HCG for 12 week 250 IU 2 shots every week
    And can I use Test -p and EQ also in same injection as Test - E with EQ

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    test e is 14 days and either way YES us hcg from start wtf your talking $40 Jesus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    test e is 14 days and either way YES us hcg from start wtf your talking $40 Jesus
    Thanks for all support and Time Appreciated advice and comments.
    This is what I will start soon and will post the results.
    Week 1 -12 Test – p 100 EOD
    Week 1 -12 Arimidex 0.5 EOD
    Week 1- 12 boldenone undecylenate 500 P/W 2 shots 250mg each
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40mg ED 20 morning & 20 evening
    Week 1 -12 HCG 500 IU P/W 250 IU 2 Shots
    PCT After 3 days last Injection
    Clomid 4 Weeks: 100, 100, 50, 50
    Nolvodex 4 weeks: 40, 40, 20, 20

    Supplements: Live 52, Milk Thistle, NAC, Fish oil Omega, Protein, BCAA, Glutamine.

    Need advice if I use Test-p 250mg and boldenone undecylenate 250 mg in a single shot?
    Last edited by sahil848; 05-10-2014 at 11:19 PM.

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    I feel that if you have to ask if you can mix oils into the same injection, you don't need to be running steroids .

    That's my advice and comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    I feel that if you have to ask if you can mix oils into the same injection, you don't need to be running steroids .

    That's my advice and comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black View Post
    I feel that if you have to ask if you can mix oils into the same injection, you don't need to be running steroids .

    That's my advice and comments.
    Respect your comments Black however I was just curious to know if I can load Test P with EQ just for less pinning.
    Need advice if I use Test-p 250mg and boldenone undecylenate 250 mg in a single shot?
    rest I have decided to go with below mentioned cycle with PCT.

    Requesting you to check and let me know if I still need to change it, will do accordingaly.


    Thanks for all support and Time Appreciated advice and comments.
    This is what I will start soon and will post the results.
    Week 1 -12 Test – p 100 EOD
    Week 1 -12 Arimidex 0.5 EOD
    Week 1- 12 boldenone undecylenate 500 P/W 2 shots 250mg each
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40mg ED 20 morning & 20 evening
    Week 1 -12 HCG 500 IU P/W 250 IU 2 Shots
    PCT After 3 days last Injection
    Clomid 4 Weeks: 100, 100, 50, 50
    Nolvodex 4 weeks: 40, 40, 20, 20

    Supplements: Live 52, Milk Thistle, NAC, Fish oil Omega, Protein, BCAA, Glutamine.

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    Ditch the EQ.

    Use test e for 12 weeks or prop for 8.

    Unless your var is true pharma grade your dosage should be doubled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Ditch the EQ.

    Use test e for 12 weeks or prop for 8.

    Unless your var is true pharma grade your dosage should be doubled.
    My all stuf is from Alpha Pharma.

    So you recomment to cut down the cycle to 8 with Test p

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    First EQ is a cutting stack drug. It will not give you bloat (size) but your gains are solid and any loss after cycle is minimal but it is normally used with Winny as a cut cycle. The only real reason to use it on a beef cycle is it makes you hungry like a mofo.

    If you are looking for beef straight test will give more results.

    Var is a cut drug. Var and EQ on the same stack is counterintuitive to AA logic for big gains in beef. It is a weight loss, bf loss, keep what gains you make combination. If you threw T3 or Clen in with your proposed cycle it would be a very common approach to cutting.

    Need to run straight test until your third cycle and until you read the steroid profiles and learn them.

    As far as same shot the best info I have been given is this...if you are going to be mixing in shot buy the same brand if possible. The % oil and other items in the mix would most likely be the same in one brand where not so likely if you use different UGL. I can only said this came from someone who is a user and has personal experience ..no reason to not believe it 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    First EQ is a cutting stack drug. It will not give you bloat (size) but your gains are solid and any loss after cycle is minimal but it is normally used with Winny as a cut cycle. The only real reason to use it on a beef cycle is it makes you hungry like a mofo.

    If you are looking for beef straight test will give more results.

    Var is a cut drug. Var and EQ on the same stack is counterintuitive to AA logic for big gains in beef. It is a weight loss, bf loss, keep what gains you make combination. If you threw T3 or Clen in with your proposed cycle it would be a very common approach to cutting.

    Need to run straight test until your third cycle and until you read the steroid profiles and learn them.

    As far as same shot the best info I have been given is this...if you are going to be mixing in shot buy the same brand if possible. The % oil and other items in the mix would most likely be the same in one brand where not so likely if you use different UGL. I can only said this came from someone who is a user and has personal experience ..no reason to not believe it 100%
    My target is to get lean and clean gains. I have done Test-p, Stanazole, and Masteron cycle for 2 months and had no issues with that and have done PCT also for same.

    Now my plans are to get some good size with clean gains and don’t want to lose it after cycle.

    Bro MY all stuf will be Alpha Pharma and it is a Pharma Grade.
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    Cool bro. I understand where you are going with it and I have the same train of thought. I rather gain 5-8 lbs lean and lose none than gain 20 and lose 12. Good luck and let us know how it works out. The Winny Steroid Profile has the Winny + EQ cycle I was talking about. It is the one cycle I am looking forward to getting to. I would cry after building biceps to see it disappear lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by sahil848 View Post
    My target is to get lean and clean gains. I have done Test-p, Stanazole, and Masteron cycle for 2 months and had no issues with that and have done PCT also for same.

    Now my plans are to get some good size with clean gains and don’t want to lose it after cycle.

    Bro MY all stuf will be Alpha Pharma and it is a Pharma Grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Cool bro. I understand where you are going with it and I have the same train of thought. I rather gain 5-8 lbs lean and lose none than gain 20 and lose 12. Good luck and let us know how it works out. The Winny Steroid Profile has the Winny + EQ cycle I was talking about. It is the one cycle I am looking forward to getting to. I would cry after building biceps to see it disappear lol.
    So what do you think Should I replace EQ with Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg p/w

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    Alpha pharma isn't true pharma grade.

    Yes, prop for 8 weeks at 150mg EOD and var probably needs to be doubled.

    Your diet will determine your success not multiple compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Alpha pharma isn't true pharma grade.

    Yes, prop for 8 weeks at 150mg EOD and var probably needs to be doubled.

    Your diet will determine your success not multiple compounds.
    Thanks for your comment, I have checked with the ALPHA PHARMA INDIA its a Pharma Grade.

    And as you mentioned to go with Test p 150 mg EOD so then I need to close cycle at 8 weeks and my EQ will not be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahil848 View Post
    Thanks for your comment, I have checked with the ALPHA PHARMA INDIA its a Pharma Grade.

    And as you mentioned to go with Test p 150 mg EOD so then I need to close cycle at 8 weeks and my EQ will not be used.
    No true pharma grade company would manufacture trenbolone . It may have a licence in India and a couple of other countries but I would treat it as a UGL personally. You will need to play with your var dosages to get it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    No true pharma grade company would manufacture trenbolone. It may have a licence in India and a couple of other countries but I would treat it as a UGL personally. You will need to play with your var dosages to get it right.
    They have Parabolin - 76.5mg/1.5ml(1.5ml) Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate 76.5mg

    Please check and let me know because people using Alpha Products claim that they are getting good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahil848 View Post
    They have Parabolin - 76.5mg/1.5ml(1.5ml) Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate 76.5mg

    Please check and let me know because people using Alpha Products claim that they are getting good results.

    Ok, let me change my thoughts. I request you as you are a senior most member.
    Please advise a cycle which gives me clean gains and reduce BF%.
    I have done 1 cycle successfully with 3 components Test p, Stanazole and Masteron . Lease share your experience and let me decide to go with that cycle and I will post about my gains.

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    The fact the manufacter tren is proof they aren't a legit pharmaceutical company. Yes you may get results as you may with other UGLs.

    Run your prop and var cycle as suggested.

    Again, your diet will determine your success not the amount, or type, of steroids you use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    The fact the manufacter tren is proof they aren't a legit pharmaceutical company. Yes you may get results as you may with other UGLs.

    Run your prop and var cycle as suggested.

    Again, your diet will determine your success not the amount, or type, of steroids you use.
    Please help me understand where will I land up with this cycle and why you want me to drop EQ.

    Week 1 -12 Test – p 100 EOD
    Week 1 -12 Arimidex 0.5 EOD
    Week 1- 12 boldenone undecylenate 500 P/W 2 shots 250mg each
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40mg ED 20 morning & 20 evening
    Week 1 -12 HCG 500 IU P/W 250 IU 2 Shots
    PCT After 3 days last Injection
    Clomid 4 Weeks: 100, 100, 50, 50
    Nolvodex 4 weeks: 40, 40, 20, 20

    Supplements: Live 52, Milk Thistle, NAC, Fish oil Omega, Protein, BCAA, Glutamine.

    1) What are the blood work I need to under go before, during and after cycle?
    2) Will it be better to go with Test E rather than Test -p and let me know the Dose?
    3) If you want me to replace EQ what will be the option?
    4) Let me know should I use Asprin while on EQ?

    Please please need to understand before I start.
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    Hello People need help to understand:

    where will I land up with this cycle and why you want me to drop EQ.

    Week 1 -12 Test – p 100 EOD
    Week 1 -12 Arimidex 0.5 EOD
    Week 1- 12 boldenone undecylenate 500 P/W 2 shots 250mg each
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40mg ED 20 morning & 20 evening
    Week 1 -12 HCG 500 IU P/W 250 IU 2 Shots
    PCT After 3 days last Injection
    Clomid 4 Weeks: 100, 100, 50, 50
    Nolvodex 4 weeks: 40, 40, 20, 20

    Supplements: Live 52, Milk Thistle, NAC, Fish oil Omega, Protein, BCAA, Glutamine.

    1) What are the blood work I need to under go before, during and after cycle?
    2) Will it be better to go with Test E rather than Test -p and let me know the Dose?
    3) If you want me to replace EQ what will be the option?
    4) Let me know should I use Asprin while on EQ?

    Please please need to understand before I start.
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    I am bit confused as my trainer has told me to run sustanon 500mg and boldenone 500mg P/W for 12 Weeks but as per this website I want to go with Test and Boldenone or some other good suggestion.

    Please advise looking for some help

    Let me know what is better for me.

    I don't want to get into any trouble. please advise which one is best.

    Week 1 -12 Test – p 100 EOD or sustanon 250 2 shots P/W
    Week 1 -12 Arimidex 0.5 EOD
    Week 1- 12 boldenone undecylenate 500 P/W 2 shots 250mg each
    Week 8-12 Anavar 40mg ED 20 morning & 20 evening
    Week 1 -12 HCG 500 IU P/W 250 IU 2 Shots
    PCT After 3 days last Injection
    Clomid 4 Weeks: 100, 100, 50, 50
    Nolvodex 4 weeks: 40, 40, 20, 20

    Supplements: Live 52, Milk Thistle, NAC, Fish oil Omega, Protein, BCAA, Glutamine.

    1) What are the blood work I need to under go before, during and after cycle?
    2) Will it be better to go with Test E rather than Test -p and let me know the Dose?
    3) If you want me to replace EQ what will be the option?
    4) Let me know should I use Asprin while on EQ?
    Last edited by sahil848; 05-13-2014 at 11:33 PM.

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