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    Deca, Winstrol and Estrogen....

    This was posted on another forum and it is definitely worthy of noting. It really all points back to how critical e2 management and blood work are on cycle. The basic finding is that both Deca and Winstrol increase aromatase expression which results in increased estradiol levels.
    This just increases the importance of estrogen management especially when these 2 compounds are incorporated into your cycle. It also in my mind casts some doubt to the contention that DHT based steroids somehow reduce the necessity for an AI. Some may, but then again they may not. Winstrol is DHT based and here it is shown to increase E2 levels, not the opposite. I personally always contended that all DHT roids ddo is shift the androgen/estrogen ratio which may in some cases reduce the likelihood of gyno. I never personally experienced e2 reduction taking a dht roid based on my own personal blood work.

    Nandrolone and stanozolol upregulate aromatase expression and further increase IGF-I-dependent effects on MCF-7 breast cancer cell proliferation

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    Good find! I myself thought of incoperating a test, decca and winsrol cycle and was wondering about this exact problem. Gotta love abstracts!! Thanks

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    Good find Jimmy!
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    Jimmyinkedup...do you know why it wouldnt let me look at the figures? Do you have to purchase this abstract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRL_HEC View Post
    Jimmyinkedup...do you know why it wouldnt let me look at the figures? Do you have to purchase this abstract?
    To see any more you have to pay. I have emailed 2 people I know that often can access full studies with all the data due to their profession and am waiting to hear back. If I can get it I will def post everything.

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