First cycle! Questions, and any response will be humbly and hugely appreciated!

[Flatus78]

As the title say i am a natty(hardgainer, ectomorph and probably not eating enough, but no eating disorders)
I am now 35 yo, been training with weights since 18 yo(but not only), and i want to challenge myself and gain some muscles. I have gained around 22 lb(10kg) the last 10 years( i know, not very impressive).
Weight: 160 lb/73 kg, height: 6 feet/183 cm. BF: maybe 12-15%(not more).
Goal would be to gain 7-8 lb/3,5 kg of muscles(maybe a bit to optimistic?), and i want to keep the gains(motivation to train is not a trouble, but because of my job the calorie intake is sometimes out of my hands, but then again, it is about priority)

My BW showed that the tests are in the middle, very low cholesterol(but good HDL), livertest etc were normal. In general pleased with the resulst( I can scan it in if anyone is interested in seeing them).

I know that for the 1 cycle it is advised to take e.g. test-e 250 mg 2 x pr week(not afraid for the i.m. injections). But i was wondering if someone have any experience with andriol 40 mg kapsuls instead? The pinning with test would not be a problem but i can get andriol from the original producer organon(hope that i am not breaking any rules by writing this) and i have heard that people have made good gains with this product and "no" side-effects. The cycle could be something like this:

1: on cycle
i) Andriol 40 mg kps, 2-3 x 3 pr day for 8-12 weeks.
ii) Arimidex 0,25-0,5 mg EOD or arimisin 12,5-25 mg ED(what is recommended of these two AI`s?)
ii) HCG 250 IU sub-q 2/week up to 3 days before PCT.
iii) NAC 600-1200 mg ED(if necessary)
iv) Maybe some kind of DHT-inhibitor like finasterid 1-5 mg ED(or duodart?), and topical spiro and ketokonazol

2: Post-cycle for 4 weeks: SERM
i) Tamoxifen 40/20/20/20 mg ED.
ii) Clomiphene 100/50/50/50 mg ED.

3: I have many questions, but i will try to narrow it down:
i) Shall i increase the andriol dose?
ii) Imagine that i did this cycle, when shall i start the PCT if taking andriol(with test-e it is recommended to start 10-14 days after last injections if i have understood it correctly?).
iii) What about "kick-starting" the cycle with e.g. dianabol that many recommend for 4-6 weeks in the beginning, even for a novice like me?

Is it possible to gain some muscles after this cycle? Or should i "just" go for test-e?
I have so many more questions but I will try to reduce them; like what if i did some winstrol , anavar or oral-turinabol in the same cycle? Would that just be plain stupid for a noob like me?
I will stop with the stupid questions here, but you guys have no idea how much your input would mean to me so please give some answers if you have time.
When(because i have been thinking about this for quite a while) i start the cycle i will upload some pre- and post pictures so that i can get some feedback on the progress, and i can get some criticisme from all the knowledgeable peolpe that is on this forum.
This post got way to long, i apologize in advanced for stealing the time from the people reading this.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Test for first cycle, no other way to do it bro. The ester doesn't really matter but if you're not used to pinning go with the longer esters, E or C...it'll keep you from having to pin so much as with Prop which would be eod. My $0.02

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[MuscleInk]

Test for first cycle, no other way to do it bro. The ester doesn't really matter but if you're not used to pinning go with the longer esters, E or C...it'll keep you from having to pin so much as with Prop which would be eod. My $0.02

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

To add....nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. You will never gain or keep new gains if you don't eat more than your TDEE. Food is the fuel and no amount of steroid will ever compensate for under feeding your efforts to grow

Test only. No need to jump start. This is a marathon, not a race. Sustainable results come from long term discipline to nutrition and training.

[jesse4466]

Test seems to be the platform to everything, may as well start from there. I'm on week 5 of 12 week cycle, 500mg a week test E. 10 pound gained so far without an increase in body fat it seems.

[MuscleInk]

Test seems to be the platform to everything, may as well start from there. I'm on week 5 of 12 week cycle, 500mg a week test E. 10 pound gained so far without an increase in body fat it seems.

Much of that is water. TestE equalizes in serum between 4-6 weeks.

[Flatus78]

thans for the quick responses guys(muscleink and odinsotherson, highly appreciated! more than i can express).
I will educate my self futher. Almost being 36 makes me feel a bit old, but there is never to late to try to improve oneself.

And mr odinsotherson, i do not know your real name, but my real name is actually named after one of odins sons(not Tor/Thor(he had many), and in english it means that you are loosing your hair if you translate it in google translate, just thouht it was a fun digression(i originate from norway, maybe that is why i think is it a bit interesting).
Again, thanks!

I will increase my calories, train more, and then probably start a cycle(still have andriol , but don`t know what to do with it now).

[Flatus78]

Dear Jesse please tell me how you are doing, and what about AI and SERMs, are you doing or planning doing any of that, and what about HCG ?

I guess you have better genetics than me, and it is cool to hear that test-es works so good, best of luck, stay safe, and thanks for giving me some feedback!

[jesse4466]

Dear Jesse please tell me how you are doing, and what about AI and SERMs, are you doing or planning doing any of that, and what about HCG? I guess you have better genetics than me, and it is cool to hear that test-es works so good, best of luck, stay safe, and thanks for giving me some feedback!

Sorry I didn't give you the entire overview:

500mg test weekly (250mg E3.5 days)
500mg HCG weekly (250mg E3.5 days)
25MG Anadrol ED weeks 1-6
AI .5mg EOD (bumped it from .25 EOD)
HGH 4IU -2iu morning / 2iu evening everyday (will run for 6-7 months)
Clomid & Nova for PCT.

Trying to eat as clean as possible, although it's something not 100%. Gym 5-6 days a week. No alcohol at all, no drugs, no partying, good sleep.

I'm sure some is water weight but I naturally fluctuated up and down a lot even without the cycle so I think my body was just ready for healthy gain time.

[MuscleInk]

Sorry I didn't give you the entire overview:

500mg test weekly (250mg E3.5 days)
500mg HCG weekly (250mg E3.5 days)
25MG Anadrol ED weeks 1-6
AI .5mg EOD (bumped it from .25 EOD)
HGH 4IU -2iu morning / 2iu evening everyday (will run for 6-7 months)
Clomid & Nova for PCT.

Trying to eat as clean as possible, although it's something not 100%. Gym 5-6 days a week. No alcohol at all, no drugs, no partying, good sleep.

I'm sure some is water weight but I naturally fluctuated up and down a lot even without the cycle so I think my body was just ready for healthy gain time.

Typo above? I think you intended 500iu/wk, correct?

[jesse4466]

Typo above? I think you intended 500iu/wk, correct?

Yes, correction. Thx

[OdinsOtherSon]

thans for the quick responses guys(muscleink and odinsotherson, highly appreciated! more than i can express).
I will educate my self futher. Almost being 36 makes me feel a bit old, but there is never to late to try to improve oneself.

And mr odinsotherson, i do not know your real name, but my real name is actually named after one of odins sons(not Tor/Thor(he had many), and in english it means that you are loosing your hair if you translate it in google translate, just thouht it was a fun digression(i originate from norway, maybe that is why i think is it a bit interesting).
Again, thanks!

I will increase my calories, train more, and then probably start a cycle(still have andriol, but don`t know what to do with it now).

Very appropriate for me then...