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**Schmicc** · 07-18-2014, 06:28 AM

Cuttin cycle for comp prep
Test p 300mg per week 1-10 weeks
Anavar 40mg per week

Not sure weather to use var for seven weeks at start or end of cycle?

And what do u think of dosages?

**ScotchGuard02** · 07-18-2014, 07:36 AM

If you're cutting for a show you have to really watch your diet and salt intake. The steroid won't really help you cut. The steroid will help volumize the muscle and preserve size. The real cutting takes place with diet and cardio.

**Chicagotarsier** · 07-18-2014, 08:06 AM

1. Protect muscle. = 300 Tren a week
2. Grow muscle without water retention. = NPP 400 a week
3. Cover your test need. = 200 test a week

Test is the worst non-oral concerning water retention due to estrogen conversion. Minimize it.

When your calories are 500, 1000, 1500 below TDEE you want one thing..to not lose muscle. Tren is the substance that gives muscle protection and forces all catabolism from fat. Nothing does it better. Tren does not cause bloat..0 conversion to estrogen.

NPP form of Nodorlone is a solid lean muscle growing substance. It converts at 20% rate that test does.

I am no pro or vet at steroids but I challenge anyone to say that is not how it works....

Honestly Var is over hyped IMHO. For cutting it might have a place but if tren is in the mix and you got T3 going in..Var is not going to do much beyond pump and keep your workout feeling good.

**marcus300** · 07-18-2014, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

1. Protect muscle. = 300 Tren a week
2. Grow muscle without water retention. = NPP 400 a week
3. Cover your test need. = 200 test a week

Test is the worst non-oral concerning water retention due to estrogen conversion. Minimize it.

When your calories are 500, 1000, 1500 below TDEE you want one thing..to not lose muscle. Tren is the substance that gives muscle protection and forces all catabolism from fat. Nothing does it better. Tren does not cause bloat..0 conversion to estrogen.

NPP form of Nodorlone is a solid lean muscle growing substance. It converts at 20% rate that test does.

I am no pro or vet at steroids but I challenge anyone to say that is not how it works....

Honestly Var is over hyped IMHO. For cutting it might have a place but if tren is in the mix and you got T3 going in..Var is not going to do much beyond pump and keep your workout feeling good.

I'm sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about,

can I ask how long have you been training?
how many cycles have you ran?

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 07-18-2014, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I'm sorry mate but you don't know what your talking about, can I ask how long have you been training? how many cycles have you ran?

He has been training for 5 months.
He is on his first cycle.
25mg test, 100mg NPP, 50mg tren , 100mg Anavar , 50mg aromasin .... Each per day
He has cut down to 42% bodyfat.

I dislike how he spouts information like he knows it all.

**Chicagotarsier** · 07-18-2014, 09:40 AM

Not going to butt heads with you Marcus even if I have an opinion. What did I say that was incorrect please? First cyle. In the gym since 6th grade. Scholarship athlete and Navy Diver/Nuke for the next 15-years. My post is based on what people are doing in the three largest gyms in Asia. I run all the network gear and phone systems for the businesses.

Dog, nice passive aggressive statement. Very nice grammar for a weightlifter to boot. Almost like another person on the site.....

**marcus300** · 07-18-2014, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

Not going to butt heads with you Marcus even if I have an opinion. What did I say that was incorrect please? First cyle. In the gym since 6th grade. Scholarship athlete and Navy Diver/Nuke for the next 15-years. My post is based on what people are doing in the three largest gyms in Asia. I run all the network gear and phone systems for the businesses.

Dog, nice passive aggressive statement. Very nice grammar for a weightlifter to boot. Almost like another person on the site.....

I'd refrain from giving advice in future, no offence but you have no idea what your talking about or the experience to back anything you say up.

Also I am dyslexic and suffer with word blindness which doesn't have anything to do with weightlifting or knowledge, this is a bodybuilding forum not a grammar forum.

Its been brought to my attention by more than one member about your advice so best thing you can do is learn, read and understand a lot more before giving out advice to probably someone who has more experience than yourself. Don't take this as an attack I am trying to help you not make a fool of yourself.

Please keep the thread on topic now any further correspondence take it to pm
Thankyou

**Schmicc** · 07-18-2014, 06:42 PM

Marcus iv been training for around 4 years, only cycled once test e 500mg ten weeks.
Iv got on hand clomid, tamox, hcg , 20ml test p and 200 tabs var at 10mg also got nac and milk thistle.

**austinite** · 07-18-2014, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

Not going to butt heads with you Marcus even if I have an opinion. What did I say that was incorrect please? First cyle. In the gym since 6th grade. Scholarship athlete and Navy Diver/Nuke for the next 15-years. My post is based on what people are doing in the three largest gyms in Asia. I run all the network gear and phone systems for the businesses.

Dog, nice passive aggressive statement. Very nice grammar for a weightlifter to boot. Almost like another person on the site.....

Chicago,

Your statement above contains 11 (eleven) grammatical errors. That must be embarrassing for you since you're so concerned with grammar.

In an attempt to keep the peace, I will merely advise all members to disregard any and all information provided by yourself. Frankly, it's worthless and your lack of experience is quite disheartening.

**derekkpapa1** · 07-18-2014, 06:56 PM

What did I miss?
All I did was go take a piss

**Schmicc** · 07-19-2014, 12:15 AM

Marcus, been training for around 4 years done 1 cycle of test e 500
I have on hand clomid, tamox, pregnyl, test p 20ml and var 10mg 200 caps

**almostgone** · 07-19-2014, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Schmicc

Marcus, been training for around 4 years done 1 cycle of test e 500
I have on hand clomid, tamox, pregnyl, test p 20ml and var 10mg 200 caps

I'm not Marcus, but 20 ml of prop won't get you very far.

**Schmicc** · 07-19-2014, 12:42 AM

Thanks for ur useless info

**almostgone** · 07-19-2014, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Schmicc

Thanks for ur useless info

Wow. You are something else. I simply pointed out that you won't get far with 20 ml. That's your post, that's the info I'm working with. Have a nice day.

**Schmicc** · 07-19-2014, 03:42 AM

So what would u suggest? Because just saying that won't get u far doesn't help.
I was thinking of doin 1 ml Monday Wednesday and Friday and get another vial. Along with 40mg of var a day. What u think about them dosages. I'm not trying to be a wanker I just want some helpful info.

**almostgone** · 07-19-2014, 03:52 AM

By saying you won't get far, it tells you that 20ml isn't enough. There are many unanswered questions. Diet, workout routine, etc. What are your plans for for your ancillaries @ 300 mg of prop/ week?
Honestly,the cycle looks weak and unless you have pharm grade anavar , you will more than likely been supremely disappointed @ 40mg/ED....and I'll add that starting a cycle with plans to "get another vial" generally don't go well

**Schmicc** · 07-19-2014, 04:10 AM

Thats my diet. I train each body part once a week leg is 4 set 20 reps all others is 4 set 15 reps. And then on Saturdays I train what ever I feel is lacking. I would be doing .25 liquidex eod As I did on my first corse and 250iu hcg twice a week also as I did on my first corse. My guy can get what ever and is pretty much on tap so getting more isn't an issue. Wat doseges would u suggest then? Iv read a lot of people doin 350mg test p and 60-80 of var?

**almostgone** · 07-19-2014, 04:26 AM

Honestly, I would break your diet down with the macros...pro/carb/fat and caloric value and evaluate where your macros fall in relation to your body structure.
As.far as.the a-dex, using .25mg EOD because you ran that amount last time is a really bad idea...especially when the homone dosages are completely different.
In regards to your cycle, I think it's weak
Don't take this wrong, but what are you trying to cut? You look relatively lean.

Instead of asking for what someone else thinks you should take, lay out a cycle and then post it up for critique..... I wouldn't post up the cycle you're proposing now.

In regards to your training, if that kind of volume works for you that's great. I prefer HIT, but anyway.....

**Schmicc** · 07-19-2014, 04:52 AM

I'm 8.5% trying to get to 4%
2255 cals a day
Protein 272g 52%
Carb 156g 30%
Fat 43g 18%
Roughly and I eat same shit six days a week.

**--->>405<<---** · 07-19-2014, 09:32 AM

8.5%bf is pretty lean. how much do u weigh? lets see some pics of ur current stats.

also what do u eat on the 7th day?

**fit2bOld** · 07-19-2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Schmicc

Thanks for ur useless info

Why are you hijacking someone else's thread. It's rude at best. Start your own

**Schmicc** · 07-19-2014, 06:09 PM

I started this thread so dunno what hi jacking ur on about?
I normally get a big breakfast from a cafe then one of my tuna meals from normal diet then some kind of protein with like sweet potato chips and then dinner is either chicken steak or fish with minimal carbs.
This is wear I am at now.