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    Hi Guys,

    I would like to ask. Why dont we read about adaptation in steroid use ?
    I mean, is that logic to start a cycle slowly, injecting lower to higher doses, to give the body the time to adapt into the new conditions, and finish the cycle lowering the doses and increasing the serms so the normal functions fire again?

    What is your opinion about that?

    Thx, Pantelis

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    The whole point of using steroids is to get the blood concentration as high as needed as quickly as you can to get the benefits.

    Pct or serm products are sort of useless until all the exogenous compounds have cleared. That's why you have a 2 week break before pct.

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    Tapering up and down was used in the Arnold years but we have many years of research to back the modern cycle use

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    Tapering up and down was used in the Arnold years but we have many years of research to back the modern cycle use
    Thx Bigsiv

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    Tapering up and down was used in the Arnold years but we have many years of research to back the modern cycle use
    this

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    The whole point of using steroids is to get the blood concentration as high as needed as quickly as you can to get the benefits.

    Pct or serm products are sort of useless until all the exogenous compounds have cleared. That's why you have a 2 week break before pct.
    And why some, in the case of gyno, propose the use of nolva or raloxifene to reverse the situation on cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantelis1001 View Post
    And why some, in the case of gyno, propose the use of nolva or raloxifene to reverse the situation on cycle?
    SERMs will not induce LH/FSH production until the test levels have normalized to pre cycle amounts. We discontinue test use for a period before PCT in order for exogenous test to clear our systems. Using nolva or ralox for gyno treatment does little to effect E2 serum levels. These SERMs merely bind to E2 receptors essentially blocking the effects of E2. SERMs only impede E2 from attaching to the receptor and do little to effect E2 levels. This is why we take an AI while on cycle. In the case gyno it is not only advised to begin SERM treatment but to also increase AI dosage. This is because the original AI dosage was not enough to to keep the E2 /T + DHT ratio low enough.

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