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    T400/eq/var cycle

    I'm 25 yr old 5 10 190lbs and 6%bf. Been training for 7 yrs and have done 4 cycles before. My last one was 3 years ago and pretty much the same as this one.

    Week 1-18 t400 600mg/week debating to front load the t400 because of the different esters.
    Week 1-16 eq 800mg/week front loading the eq 1400mg first week.
    Week 16-20 anavar 60mg/ed
    Novadex week 4-20 20mg eod
    Clomid week 16-20 eod
    Hcg 1500ui every third day from week 18-20.
    Injections every Monday and Thursday

    Was wondering what changes you guys would do to it.
    I also have some left over igf lr3 and some mgf. Dono wether I should throw it in somewhere or toss it. Let me know what you guys think

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    6% bf I got to see this post up a pic

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    Can you lay out your first 4 cycles for us? And gains made?

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    Firs cycle was when I was 18. Was dbol only. I was doing 80-100mg a day can't quite remember. Did that for about 1.5 month. Twice. Gained about 25lbs. Was scared of the thought of needles. Then seen what my good buddie gained and wanted in. Next was 6 months later test cyp and for 3 months at I think was 600mg/week and dbol again gained a good 25. Was 3 months after and was t400/eq for 16 weeks. Dbol first four weeks at 60mg then anavar from week 12-18. With my pct. switched from novadex and arimedex everyday with hcg for 2 weeks. Gained a considerable amount 35 pounds kept most and was maybe around 8%bf. Was doing igf lr3 and mgf during the post and short time after that. Which I would consider my fourth. Some might not tho. But that's my cycle history. Started at 17ish at 145lbs. Went to 225 was my max. Got in an accident couldn't workout which is why I haven't done in a long time. Lost a lot due to I wasn't allowed to lift doctors orders. Been cleared for a year or so to start lifting and doc has giving the green light to resume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derekjpapa View Post
    6% bf I got to see this post up a pic
    Snap. That's almost stage ready and natural too.

    OP you have no AI listed for on cycle which is when your HCG should be run too. No clomid amount listed either?

    Honestly you are missing some basics here.myou haven't cycle in some time and want to jump into a muti compound 20 week cycle. I'd suggest a test only ran properly with a great diet at this stage.

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

    Have you had any bloodwork done since your last cycle to know what your current test levels are? You know the risks of cycling so young?

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    I will be takin Clomid at 50mg per dose. I was thinking about using arimedex throughout the cycle at 1mg in days I won't be taking nova. I have tests done throughout my cycle every few weeks and for a few months after all said and done. Last test was not long ago when doc said I would be good to go. I know the risks involved at cycling at my age and people frown upon it. But I love it like we all do. The last cycle like this was incredible. I had amazing results.Was just wondering what you guys would do differently and advice on how you'd run your pct.

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    Why are you taking nolva on cycle? Why would you consider 1mg of a'dex EOD, you have any idea what that will do to you.

    You really need to read the links provided and then read more, you are lacking some basic understanding here I think.
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    I was going to take nolva during to keep bloat and estrogen down and the chance of getting gyno(I'm prone to it). Lost of people have different views on what to do. Some run It throughout some only for pct. some take arimedex during and stop before starting pct and just run Clomid and nolva with hcg . Heard a lot of things and which is why I am asking what you guys would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young buk View Post
    I was going to take nolva during to keep bloat and estrogen down and the chance of getting gyno(I'm prone to it). Lost of people have different views on what to do. Some run It throughout some only for pct. some take arimedex during and stop before starting pct and just run Clomid and nolva with hcg. Heard a lot of things and which is why I am asking what you guys would do.
    Nolva is a SERM, not an AI and as such it won't prevent aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. It simply blocks receptor binding; the estrogen will continue to increase. If you run your cycle correctly with the right dose of a legitimate AI, you generally will NOT need the SERM on cycle. These "guys" you speak of who run nolva on cycle are simply taking drugs they do not need unnecessarily probably because they've never spent any significant time educating themselves about the compounds they put in their bodies. For many guys, their "education" means reading about what other people have done and then following them like lost sheep.

    There's a reason we preach "educate before you medicate" on this site.

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    So save novadex for the post. And if I start to get symptoms? How would you run your post for a cycle like this? I'm trying to educate which is why I'm asking questions from the pros and not people I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young buk View Post
    So save novadex for the post. And if I start to get symptoms? How would you run your post for a cycle like this? I'm trying to educate which is why I'm asking questions from the pros and not people I know.
    Have you read either educational thread we have on here discussing First cycles or PCTs? Both are must reads by a reputable member on this forum. Those threads will provide you with valuable information. I'm on my phone at the moment so pasting the links isn't as easy. I'm sure others will soon if you haven't already been advised to read them.

    Your PCT should include both clomiphene and taxomifen. Both are SERMs but there are good reasons to run both since clomiphene offers additional benefits many are unaware of.

    Start with those two threads for a better understanding of why nolva and clomid are used for your PCT.
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