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    Planning second cycle

    So I'm coming to the end of my first cycle and as as the planner that I am I'm planning way in advance for my second. Most likely will be running the end of this year.

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    Current cycle

    Test p 100mg/eod week 1-4
    Test e 500mg/week 1-10

    Stane 12.5 eod
    Hcg 250iu 2/week

    Pct clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolva 40/20/20/20

    Second cycle will be a bulking cycle

    Test p 100/mg eod 1-4
    Test e 500/mg wk 1-10
    Npp 400/mg wk 1-10

    Same ai/hcg/pct

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    Should I start the npp later in cycle? Should I keep ai and pct the same?

    Anything else I should change?

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    Where did you test your bf%? Post photos to confirm 10%

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    I get it done w bodpod. I started at this cycle at 7%. I don't post photos anymore cause my tattoos are very bold and unique.

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    Bump. Anyone ?

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    I would run teste at 250mg while running prop but otherwise looks good to me

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    the test p kicker and the test e doses look reasonable

    why the deca on a second cycle?

    how were the results of your first cycle?

    no need to start adding different compounds so soon. if you got good results from your first cycle, then stick with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    the test p kicker and the test e doses look reasonable

    why the deca on a second cycle?

    how were the results of your first cycle?

    no need to start adding different compounds so soon. if you got good results from your first cycle, then stick with that.
    Results from this cycle were great. Was at around 190lb at 7% and am now 220% at 10%. I started to put on more fat and water than I'd like so I added cardio back and pulled carbs back. Was good to learn how my body reacts to dif macros while on gear.

    Was gonna add deca just cause I want to get more results I guess. It's the never satisfied part that talks to me and says do more. But your prob right I could get great gains again from just test

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    Deca Is harder to recover from and also will add more bloat.
    Maybe look at running anavar the last half of cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucabratzi View Post
    Results from this cycle were great. Was at around 190lb at 7% and am now 220% at 10%. I started to put on more fat and water than I'd like so I added cardio back and pulled carbs back. Was good to learn how my body reacts to dif macros while on gear.

    Was gonna add deca just cause I want to get more results I guess. It's the never satisfied part that talks to me and says do more. But your prob right I could get great gains again from just test

    Lets see some before and afters thats a hell of a transformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucabratzi View Post
    Results from this cycle were great. Was at around 190lb at 7% and am now 220% at 10%. I started to put on more fat and water than I'd like so I added cardio back and pulled carbs back. Was good to learn how my body reacts to dif macros while on gear.

    Was gonna add deca just cause I want to get more results I guess. It's the never satisfied part that talks to me and says do more. But your prob right I could get great gains again from just test

    those are the results before and after your last cycle? if so, I don't see the need for more AAS. Just stick with the prior cycle. Give it time. After a few of those cycles, we should be hearing about you on the pro circuit? =)

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    second thought

    that's only an increase of 12.3 pounds of LBM. Not as radical as I was first suspecting.

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    third thought...

    (I must be all fvcked up in the head, or tired or something?)

    that's over 20 pounds of additional LBM. and yes, that is more than what I usually find to be typical.

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    He took his vitamins and said his prays there mean gene

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    third thought...

    (I must be all fvcked up in the head, or tired or something?)

    that's over 20 pounds of additional LBM. and yes, that is more than what I usually find to be typical.

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    I was very lean at 190 7%. My body normally wants to be around 200-210. Plus take into account I'm also 6'2. I was dieting down for a long time. But everyone in my gym and office has noticed cause that gain came very fast.

    Also what I've learned is the bodpod only calculates the bf amount. So if I'm holding a lot of water ect it counts that as muscle.

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