3rd cycle advice with Test/Deca/dbol/HGH

[N8.]

Hey all!

I'd like you all to weigh in on my approaching 3rd cycle. This will be a bulking cycle. I plan on doing this upcoming bulk and one more bulking cycle and then begin to cut back down the accumulated body fat to shred before summer of 2015!

Enough about the future though because what my intentions are right now is to GROW.

Me:
27 5'8 185lbs 15% bf

Goal after this cycle:
5'8 210-215Lbs


Cycle:

W 1-16 Test Cyp 600/week
W 1-14 Deca 450/week
W 1-4 D-Bol 50mg/ED
HGH- Rips- 4 iu/ED split to 2 shots a day
Arimidex - 1 pill a day

Pct: Nolva and considering hcg .

I'd like y'all to counsel me on, among anything you feel inclined to, specifically two particular factors. They are as follows: I'd like your advice on the best pct for this cycle. Should I run hcg three weeks out the end of this cycle like I've read? I'll be running HGH at 4iu(rips) for at least 1 year solid so I feel that'll help my pct as well.

Another question I have, since I wanna grow on this one, is should I also add in....

Anavar W 6-13 for some end cycle size?

I'll be consuming 5000-6000 calories a day. It's gonna be hard but I'm ready to go all in on this one.

Also I'll be working out M-Sat at 5:00 am and 6:00 pm every day to take advantage of all the cycle offers.

Any suggestions on sups to take on this as well, or any critiquing of the cycle or advice PLEASE Speke up y'all.

Thanks for your time-

Nate.

[reporich]

You shouldn't need to work out twice a day...

[N8.]

You shouldn't need to work out twice a day...

I've totally been under that belief under my whole 10 year training experience, but the way is see it now is this, reporich;

One of the best things gear can do for you generally speaking is give you the ability to recover faster.

It's not like I won't be training incredibly precise and meticulous. Morning work outs are high rep/hiit and evenings are following the Armold Blueprint from BB.com it's Arnold's claimed blueprint full of ridiculous training techniques. The way I see it is that I'll be able to get more tear of the muscle and therefore make more gains.

The point of my thread is to grow up to 30-40 lbs in the duration of this cycle. I'm just trying to do all that I can to bulk up.

Hey thanks for the reply btw! You rock.

[Jaydenn]

goodluck with 5000-600 calories.. maybe post your diet in the diet section, first
then move on to the juice !

[N8.]

goodluck with 5000-600 calories.. maybe post your diet in the diet section, first
then move on to the juice !

Hahahahaha dude I feel ya man! It's gonna be crazy! I work construction all day and drink two gallons of water a day and have to eat crazy to add additional macros to where it needs to. It's not easy but it's what I gotta do.

[DrewZ]

Seems like a lot of adex!

hCG during cycle - 250iu twice a week

Clomid and Nolva for PCT.

What about Prami or Caber for Prolactin while using deca ?

Definitely hit up the nutrition section.

2 a days with resistance training aren't necessary...
If you train right the first trip, you shouldn't be able to do a second trip for the day...
Hit up the Marcus diary in the lounge to learn how to train

Welcome.

[N8.]

Seems like a lot of adex!

hCG during cycle - 250iu twice a week

Clomid and Nolva for PCT.

What about Prami or Caber for Prolactin while using deca ?

Definitely hit up the nutrition section.

2 a days with resistance training aren't necessary...
If you train right the first trip, you shouldn't be able to do a second trip for the day...
Hit up the Marcus diary in the lounge to learn how to train

Welcome.

Drewz, thank you so much for the response.
Thank you for all your advice regarding my pct.
so now I'll talk to my source about prami I or caber for the prolactin. I've heard that those are very important while on deca. I'll get some of those before I start as well.

Hcg through the whole cycle? Or hcg at the end?

Thanks so much Drewz.

[Capebuffalo]

25-35 lbs in 16 weeks? Yes if it's water weight or fat. Why gain fat just to have to turn around and lose it? If you gain 10 lbs of fat and lose 10 lbs of fat, you're back at the same weight. Not the healthiest approach.

What were your first 2 cycles? What were your gains?

[Deal Me In]

Yes, HCG throughout the cycle. 250iu twice a week.

You might be able to physically handle two workouts a day but it's very easy to get into overtraining at that frequency. You have to consider the mental aspect of that program as well.

[N8.]

Yes, HCG throughout the cycle. 250iu twice a week.

You might be able to physically handle two workouts a day but it's very easy to get into overtraining at that frequency. You have to consider the mental aspect of that program as well.

Thanks for your reply, Deal. I'm mentally preparing myself everyday and building up for it. This cycle and my self employed career are all that I'll be concerned with during the next 4 months. I'm single so no distractions.

[N8.]

25-35 lbs in 16 weeks? Yes if it's water weight or fat. Why gain fat just to have to turn around and lose it? If you gain 10 lbs of fat and lose 10 lbs of fat, you're back at the same weight. Not the healthiest approach.

What were your first 2 cycles? What were your gains?

Four months Before my first cycle starting in September of 2013 I was 200 lbs at 30 or more bf%. I was depressed as hell from the loss of a friend and are crazy everyday. Then I cut back down to 145 at the start of my first cycle. After that first cycle(test300cyp-dbol50-anavar -75) I was 160 12% bf.

Then I started my second cycle in March of this year(2014) which was test prop, tren , masteron , t3. Results from that cycle were 185 12 % bf.

Now I'm cruising at that weight and I'm about to start my 3rd cycle which will bulk that is mentioned above.

Now I would like to stay heathy as possible and not work against my favor at all.
I greatly appreciate where you are coming from CAPE.
Thanks man

Nate

[Capebuffalo]

I have to point a few things out. 1 pill of dex a day? What is the mg? Hcg is through the cycle not pct. And pct should consist of novla and clomid. Your first 2 cycles should have been test only as this one should be. But if not drop the dbol . It's only water weight gain. Are the cals consumed from food or majority of shakes?

[DrewZ]

How long was your March cycle?

Have you donated blood?

Did you have post cycle blood work?

Time between cycles is Time on + PCT = Time off.
So if you did an 10 week prop cycle and 4 week PCT.

You shouldn't start another cycle for 14 weeks after you finished your PCT at minimum

There is a ton of great info written up on these boards, I would read thru the stickies a few times.

A lot can be learned here: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

Even though this isnt your first, I would highly recommend reading thru this: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[N8.]

I have to point a few things out. 1 pill of dex a day? What is the mg? Hcg is through the cycle not pct. And pct should consist of novla and clomid. Your first 2 cycles should have been test only as this one should be. But if not drop the dbol. It's only water weight gain. Are the cals consumed from food or majority of shakes?

Hey Cape!

Adex is gonna be .5 mg a day and of course that's only gonna be during cycle. Now I have the clomid and Nolva on hand for pct do we are all set there. I've never ran hcg and will put that hcg at the top of my priority list with this next cycle if that's what you think.

You are absolutely right my friend, my first two cycles as well as EVERYONES first cycle should only be test. I was stupid like Icuras and learned my lesson.

This cycle if I were to ran dbol and it did give me water weight at least that would give me a greater pump, but then again you bring up another great point. I would hate to have water and fat to have to loose at the end of this.

Regarding my calories? Most of all the calories consumed for me are my chicken and vegetables my turkey pasta and my beef hamburgers mashed potatoes asparagus. I will probably drink only 1000 calories in shake form and the rest will be good. I love to eat so it shouldn't be a problem at all. My key is to eat clean bulk and not to act like an armature and just any and everything. It's about the right foods.

Thanks Cape.

N8

[N8.]

What's up Drewz.

I'll get some blood work done. What should I look for in the blood test?

My last cycle was 14 weeks and I've had 14 weeks of recovery. I've started my HGH journey starting this month as well.

I'll research all those articles later. Thanks bud!

N8

[Capebuffalo]

Good news. Unless you know from your experience you need .5 of dex ed paid start at .25 mg eod


Please get BW prior to this cycle

[N8.]

Sounds good Caoe. Will do man!

I'm hyped about what the results are gonna be!!! I hope this is gonna result in some Intense gains!

Cape, so do you think it's pointless or maybe harmful to add another oral later on in the cycle? I want to grow the most, but obviously don't want to screw up my liver too much from all those Orals. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks again Cape.

Nate

[Capebuffalo]

Sounds good Caoe. Will do man!

I'm hyped about what the results are gonna be!!! I hope this is gonna result in some Intense gains!

Cape, so do you think it's pointless or maybe harmful to add another oral later on in the cycle? I want to grow the most, but obviously don't want to screw up my liver too much from all those Orals. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks again Cape.

Nate

Then train 1 body part per day. HIT style. Eat. Go to the lounge and start reading Marcus's Diary. Start on the first page. If you train like that and have ample rest you will be amazed at the new growth. No 2x a day bullshit. If you train like this you can't train twice a day. You're forced to grow. But you grow when you rest. So you have to let the body recover. And you have to feed the growth. That's how you will put size on. I speak from experience.

[N8.]

Then train 1 body part per day. HIT style. Eat. Go to the lounge and start reading Marcus's Diary. Start on the first page. If you train like that and have ample rest you will be amazed at the new growth. No 2x a day bullshit. If you train like this you can't train twice a day. You're forced to grow. But you grow when you rest. So you have to let the body recover. And you have to feed the growth. That's how you will put size on. I speak from experience.

Hell yeah man, you're getting my hyped!!!
I'll definitely reading Marcus diary tonight when I'm lounging.
You are totally right! There probably is no reason to work out twice a day, if you kick the irons but the first time.
I'm just really serious about as much bulk as I can get!
As far as the macros go, no problems there, I'll be eatin me some food. No choice lol.

Cheers cape, and thanks for your input compadre

N8

[Mp859]

Hell yeah man, you're getting my hyped!!! I'll definitely reading Marcus diary tonight when I'm lounging. You are totally right! There probably is no reason to work out twice a day, if you kick the irons but the first time. I'm just really serious about as much bulk as I can get! As far as the macros go, no problems there, I'll be eatin me some food. No choice lol. Cheers cape, and thanks for your input compadre N8

It sounds like this is your first cycle brotha.

[N8.]

It sounds like this is your first cycle brotha.

Well I always hate to disappoint. But sometimes you have no choice, lol. Hey man I just get excited by the science behind gear and I live being in the gym. If that's a problem to some let me apologize now because I'm an upfront positive kinda guy.

Thanks for your input though there fellow mate.

[RND97]

here to wish you best luck. thanks to you and all for the post. i am following up coz it is close to my cycle and this answered all my questions.