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    Exclamation Possible fake gear on first cycle

    Hy. 5 weeks ago I started my first steroid cycle. I bought Testosterone Enanthate 10 ml from Keifei. I checked the authentication codes on their site and it was ok. The problem is I'm not feeling anything. In the first week i did one injection and afther that 2/week. My source said i should use Talmoxifen only if i get gyno symptoms as it can reduce the effects of the testosterone so i'm NOT using any anti-estrogens. I dont feel any extra force or energy at the gym, no aggressiveness, no extra sex drive, no gyno symptoms , no acne or oily skin, no change in hair groth or any testosterone related side effects. The only difference i can see is that i gained about 8kg (18 lb) in about 4 weeks an a bit of extra belly fat. Also no change in testicle size. I was thinking a shorter 6 week cycle is ok for my first time to see how i react to test. I have 2 more injections to go. Is it possible the gear is not ok(date of manufacture 2012, expires in 2015).
    Should i do a mild PCT 2 weeks after my last pin or should I get more testosterone.
    I know it takes some time for enanthate to work but 5 weeks in i should at least see some of the side effects,right?
    thanks in advance.
    EDIT: sorry i forgot to say im 24 years old, 175 lb, 6 ft tall and i think my diet is ok i try to eat 3000 kcal a day and lots of protein.
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    Please remove the link
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    Give it another week or two if not only true way to tell is blood work.
    Also sorry to say you Really don't have a clue neither does your source.
    Read this and see what you think after
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

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    A lot wrong-
    No AI
    No hcg
    What the hell does a bit of belly fat mean
    You don't try to eat your diet (about 3k calories that shows u have no clue or not take diet serious)
    What the hell is mild pct?
    6 week cycle of a long Ester who hell came up with that.
    I believe you are skinny fat 6 ft 175 you should be at least 190 natural plus before touch gear
    What is you bf%

    Too many questions- to many questions

    My suggestion is stop cycle now run pct after 2 weeks nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 75/75/50/25
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    Most on this forum would totally agree with Derekjpapa!

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    Sorry about the link, i did not know about that rule, i just wanted to show what brand i have.
    Thanks for the info Derekjpapa. Is an AI necessary or is (Talmoxifen) Nolva good enough, Arimidex is pretty expensive. Plus i have no estrogen side effects, most of the stuff i read told me to use nolva only if sensitive to estrogen.
    bf% is around 10% a bit of belly fat means my abs dont show as much and when i pinch my belly area i can feel more fat than before, im pretty lean over all and i have very skinny bones so i should be 10 to 20 lb lighter than a guy with average or big bones.
    since i am doing a short cycle i dident think hcg is necessary in the PCT
    What do you mean 3 calories, i specified 3000 kcal, isn't that good?
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    how long does it take for side effects to affect me from first injection?
    more importantly gyno and testicular atrophy
    Last edited by mikefox; 08-14-2014 at 08:21 AM.

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    anyone here ever used test from Keifei? its supposed to have 300mg/ml.

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    Here's the way I look at it. If you are contemplating if it is fake gear 5 weeks in then it is most likely fake gear.

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    you gained 18 pound in 4 week and you are still complening ??

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    just suspicious about the lack off other effects, i do seem more muscular but i was looking forward to the aggressiveness, boners and a beard lol
    so i should continue to a 10 week cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikefox View Post
    just suspicious about the lack off other effects, i do seem more muscular but i was looking forward to the aggressiveness, boners and a beard lol
    so i should continue to a 10 week cycle?
    iam on it right now there is no side effect it make me feel better and calm also iam using pharma grade testosterone

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    also from about week 2 the muscles around each injection (glutes) start to ferm up and the area is soar and red for a few days(feels like a golf ball under the skin).
    Is this normal, Has it happened to anybody?

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    I'd say golf balls under the skin is not normal.

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    I dont understand how you are mentioning gaining 18lbs in 4 weeks yet question gear. I think you are just expecting too much.. Get blood work and you shall know for sure.

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    is it ok if i continue with 7 or 8 weeks of test prop?

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