am i immune to steroids?

**parkourlive** · 09-24-2014, 09:27 PM

on test e for nearly 6 weeks, reliable brand, feeling nothing. Eating loads and working out hard.
Everyone else taking the same stuff is going good and gaining muscle etc. Am I immune to the oil ? can my body just not break down this oil for it to work or something? i'm injecting it perfectly.
I also did a cycle of propionate before this and again i felt nothing, switched the prop to a different brand which was even more popular and zero results after 6 weeks injecting it, remained the same.
please help me out I feel depressed because of it

stats:
age 23
185lb
10% bf
training on and off 4 years

**Dougiefresh7707** · 09-24-2014, 09:41 PM

Sounds like bunk gear to me or you're not doing something right.

**tdoe11** · 09-24-2014, 09:49 PM

I would first assess your gear, then diet and training. Some people are more sensitive to anabolics than others but I have never heard of a complete non responder. What brand are you using, and what is your dosing regiment? Give us an example of your routine and daily diet.

**parkourlive** · 09-24-2014, 09:59 PM

sp labs - test enanthate 500mg/week
and i took two brands of test prop geneza pharma and balkan pharma from 100-150mg eod

all three brands are very popular and the site i got them from is highly rated. I do heavy compound exercises daily as usual and i eat loads

Really have no clue whats wrong with me, the gear must be reliable because everyone rated them high.
what could i be doing wrong?

**Dougiefresh7707** · 09-24-2014, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

sp labs - test enanthate 500mg/week and i took two brands of test prop geneza pharma and balkan pharma all three brands are very popular and the site i got them from is highly rated. I do heavy compound exercises daily as usual and i eat loads Really have no clue whats wrong with me

Yea the human body cannot just be immune to AAS so there is only two things I can think of like I said bunk gear, or you diet bottom line. I have gotten gear off of a couple reputable sites and blood work proved they were bunk so maybe blood work is your best option right now.

**tdoe11** · 09-24-2014, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

sp labs - test enanthate 500mg/week and i took two brands of test prop geneza pharma and balkan pharma from 100-150mg eod all three brands are very popular and the site i got them from is highly rated. I do heavy compound exercises daily as usual and i eat loads Really have no clue whats wrong with me, the gear must be reliable because everyone rated them high. what could i be doing wrong?

Stating that you do heavy compound exercises daily and eat loads tells me your training and diet are your problem. Steroids are not magic. They are only a piece of the puzzle. But......if the other pieces aren't intact then you cannot build. Please give us an example of your daily routine, for instance what did you do in the gym today? Exercises sets and reps. Also what did you eat today?

**ottomaddox** · 09-24-2014, 10:28 PM

You could be over training, post your routine and schedule of on vs off days.

**tarmyg** · 09-24-2014, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

Am I immune to the oil ?

No!!!

**Times Roman** · 09-24-2014, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

on test e for nearly 6 weeks, reliable brand, feeling nothing. Eating loads and working out hard.
Everyone else taking the same stuff is going good and gaining muscle etc. Am I immune to the oil ? can my body just not break down this oil for it to work or something? i'm injecting it perfectly.
I also did a cycle of propionate before this and again i felt nothing, switched the prop to a different brand which was even more popular and zero results after 6 weeks injecting it, remained the same.
please help me out I feel depressed because of it

stats:
age 23
185lb
10% bf
training on and off 4 years

All of us are "immune" if the gear is bogus..........

**parkourlive** · 09-24-2014, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707

Yea the human body cannot just be immune to AAS so there is only two things I can think of like I said bunk gear, or you diet bottom line. I have gotten gear off of a couple reputable sites and blood work proved they were bunk so maybe blood work is your best option right now.

im training every second day.
Today i did chest, bench press and dumbell press along with cable flies.
I do basic excersises, i eat the same every day. About 350g pasta or rice , 6eggs (3whites 3whole) , chicken fillets and protein gainer shake and a good breakfast and during the day i eat nuts.
I'm getting a lot of protein, carbs and fat in my diet trust me.
Are you saying i should get the gear tested or get myself tested for testosterone levels to see if it working?

**aussie made** · 09-25-2014, 12:02 AM

Get blood work done. Calculate the calories from all your meals. Your more then likely not eating enough

**songdog** · 09-25-2014, 12:07 AM

A lot of times guys who dont count their macros think they are eating a lot.But really they are not.You need to know how much you are putting into your body.

**parkourlive** · 09-25-2014, 12:18 AM

but doesnt it make sense that i should be feeling the libido increase atleast? i mean, people on trt doses feel it and im injecting like 5 times they are and i feel nothing. I'll count up my calories once i go shopping again, what should i be aiming for?

**DrewZ** · 09-25-2014, 12:29 AM

parkourlive;
I'm 9 weeks into my first cycle and I don't "feel" any different, my libido really isnt any different, might even be a tad less actually.
I've had blood work and my stuff is good.
I am however considerably stronger and I can see my body changing.

Like others said, get blood work and count your macros.

Head over to the nutrition section and get dialed in, post up your height/weight/bf% and goals.

**parkourlive** · 09-25-2014, 12:41 AM

so if ur gear is good^, u could take dianabol and your balls wouldn't shrink?
because if i take dianabol oral my balls shrink so this proves there is no test E working in me? because obviously if its working only slightly then taking dianabol shouldn't make my balls shrink

understand me?

**ottomaddox** · 09-25-2014, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

I'll count up my calories once i go shopping again, what should i be aiming for?

Not to be harsh, but you should know this before you started your cycle. Please visit the nutrition page and post your diet, so it can be tweaked for optimal gains, as long as your steroids aren't bunk.

**Khazima** · 09-25-2014, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

so if ur gear is good^, u could take dianabol and your balls wouldn't shrink?
because if i take dianabol oral my balls shrink so this proves there is no test E working in me? because obviously if its working only slightly then taking dianabol shouldn't make my balls shrink

understand me?

Certainly not the case. Are you running an AI and hCG ? If you're not counting macros you have no idea whether you're eating enough or not. Have you gained weight?

**Mr.BB** · 09-25-2014, 01:44 AM

What was your testosterone level pre cycle?

At 23 you be at the high end of your natural test levels, so introducing exogenous test could maybe not produce the same reaction as if you were older.

But dont expect testosterone to be magic, you will not feel superman or have extraordinary strenght increase. If you are not gaining weight you need to check nutrition.

**Athlete127** · 09-25-2014, 04:16 PM

Just from reading this, you need to stop and run a PCT. The brands you mentioned are all good. I feel like if you don't weigh your food, count calories and macros etc then you have no business cycling.

**parkourlive** · 09-25-2014, 09:02 PM

i'm gonna do that then, i'll submit my diet over at that part of the forum and see if im good to go i was just confused at why i dont even feel the libido yet

**dvd** · 09-26-2014, 01:38 AM

I'd assess your workout. Odds are it's the same workout with the same weights you've always done. I've gained more naturally (5lbs in one month) just from completely overhauling my workout. My advice is ditch the old workout build a new one from scratch and lift heavier weights.

**TasteDaHate** · 09-26-2014, 05:57 AM

You are expecting too much , I did too on my first cycle. You're gonna realize it was working when you come off. I don't really "feel" something when im on high test , it doesnt mean its not working , Tren is another story...

**GGot FFina?** · 09-27-2014, 03:35 AM

Is this your first cycle?? If it is and the other people are on the same gear, claiming and seeing change, then i think maybe your expectations are what is making you think its fake. I have seen many people including myself, that didn' know what to expect and painted a totally different picture in my mind of what i was going to feel like on my first cycle. It turned out to feel nothing like what i had imagined.
If the gear is not bunk because your friends are also on it, then i think maybe you were expecting too much.

Is it at least making you horny? Do you feel like whacking off or tapping your GF more?? This for me are the first signs i see when i jump on Test.

Other than that, the only real way would be to head over to Dr office and get blood work.

**parkourlive** · 09-27-2014, 04:05 AM

dont feel any way horny, im actually shut down from the dbol i took, this shouldn't happen seen as im a good bit into this cycle.
I took prop before as i said^ but it also didn't work.
I am not expecting something big from it, im just expecting to feel atleast something from it , i just feel like nothing at the moment. If its 12 weeks and it still doesn't work i just don't know what to do any more

**GGot FFina?** · 09-27-2014, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by parkourlive

dont feel any way horny, im actually shut down from the dbol i took, this should happen seen as im a good bit into this cycle.
I took prop before as i said^ but it also didn't work.
I am not expecting something big from it, im just expecting to feel atleast something from it , i just feel like nothing at the moment. If its 12 weeks and it still doesn't work i just don't know what to do any more

What to do is pretty simple. Go to doctor and get blood work. At this point that is your best choice and would save you continuing to inject fake Test, if that is the case. If i was in your shoes i would have gone already. Good luck dude.

**lovbyts** · 09-27-2014, 04:46 AM

Your friends are getting better results because they probably have better genetics or more room to grow. You may have just gotten a different batch also that may have been bunk while theirs were good. To many variables but there is one way to know for sure. Go get labs done.

You may also be E2 sensitive and your E2 is hight limiting your gains. Again you need labs done.

**Grownup** · 10-04-2014, 10:41 AM

my estrogen is not too high and i know i have very good genetics. My body just won't produce any testosterone , i feel shit

**lovbyts** · 10-04-2014, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Grownup

my estrogen is not too high and i know i have very good genetics. My body just won't produce any testosterone, i feel shit

OK what were your lab numbers for your E2 & Sensitive estradiol?

Im betting on your test results are......You just know they are fine.

Well it sounds like you probably got it all figured out since your body just wont produce any testosterone then doing any cycles in the future is a waste of time for you, right? No reason for you to hang around here anymore.

**Haydenz** · 10-05-2014, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Athlete127

Just from reading this, you need to stop and run a PCT. The brands you mentioned are all good. I feel like if you don't weigh your food, count calories and macros etc then you have no business cycling.

Nail on the head my friend , your having like 4 meals a day, I was doing that at around 15 years old, jump into pct and take a good length of time off before you start pinning again to gain the knowledge you need to cycle properly

**RangerDanger830** · 10-05-2014, 08:23 AM

You need bloodwork but I am willing to bet your gear is good unless our source watered it down. I have used Balkan for 7ish years and have ever had a bad batch.

I am willing to bet it is your diet, especially since you said you do not count macros like you should. I wouldn't cycle either if I wasn't counting calories precisely.

What else are you taking with the test?