1st cycle which one and recommendation plz

[thetanudj]

After so many nights learning, I have concluded into 2 cycles as the 1st one and I want to get the most of of it! Trained for 9 years and I am currently 198lbs to be exact. BF 9%. My height is 5ft7. Goal: gain mass bulking.

Cycle 1:
Weeks 1-4
Diananbol 30mg/day
Armi 0.5mg EOD
Weeks 1-12
Arimidex - o,5mg EOD
Test E - 500mg a week - 250mg twice a week (Monday+Thursday)

(2 weeks before PCT wk13th+14th) HCG - 250mg twice a week (Monday+Friday)

Wk 14th-18th PCT: 4 weeks - (2 weeks after last pin)
Armi 0.5mg every 3 days
Clomid - 1st week 75/2nd 50/3th 50/4th 50

Cycle 2 only test E:
Week 1-12:
Monday+Thurs:Test enanthate 250mg- 2 times/week
AI during cycle 0.5mg EOD (Monday+Thursday)
After 12wks test e, wk 13th+14th take HCG 250IU 2 times per week Monday/Friday.
Week 15th start PCT:
Comid 25mgs: 1st week 75/2nd 50/3th 50/4th 50
Armidex 0.5mg every 3 days for 4 weeks.
When Clomid stop Armi stop. Cycle end.

[derekkpapa1]

#2 but needs a little work
hcg throughout
nolva and clomid tapering down the dosages for pct
hcg and aI stop just prior to pct
start arimidex at .25 eod as stated in #1
Get pre and post cycle blood work
Ready thru sticky on planning first cycle again

[thetanudj]

Stop AI prior pct, do you mean stop using Anastrozole during PCT brother?

ALso, why not choosing number 1 for max gainz for 1st cycle?

[derekkpapa1]

Yes pct is just nolva and clomid tapering down the dosages.
First cycle all you need is test.
Example is: say your first cycle is test and dbol and you get a case of gyno 4 weeks in what caused it?
run test cycle and diet to determine your results and build up your cycles as you go on.

[Back In Black]

Read this, it has everything in simple terms, and try again

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html