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12-08-2014, 08:08 PM #1New Member
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High Estrogen months after cycle, gyno symptoms too, advice please!
I just got some bloodwork done, 2 months after I finished PCT, my natural levels were Testosterone : 394 and Estrogen : 24 now after all this time my Test is : 373 and my Estrogen : 37. This seems a little unbalanced, when I was on cycle my Test was : 2776 and Est was : 29
My cycle was,
10 wks Deca at 400 then switched to 600 per friends advice,
14 wks Test-e 250 then switched to 375 per friends advice,
5 wks HCG (last 5 weeks 1000ius/wk)
6 wks Nolva/Clomid
.5 Adex e4d except for 10 days before PCT started
I ran PCT on wk 16 in this order,
Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20/20/20
I'm having some gyno symptoms, and have developed a mass behind each nipple that's sore. I've had some hair loss, significant thinning. My libidos on point though. Dr says I'm completely in normal range but I can't deny that my Estro is much higher than it was, what can I do to resolve this problem and reverse the gyno as well?
Casual Adex or maybe some Letro? Any advice would be a life saver! Thank you!
Also would Aromasin be more effective?Last edited by ibinlyrical; 12-08-2014 at 08:19 PM.
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12-08-2014, 09:43 PM #2Junior Member
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It appears, that we can summarize your situation as Post-PCT Estrogen rebound. You are On-point with getting blood work, thanks that was the proper thing to do.
I personally used letro for 4 weeks at 2.5mg/day following the "Letro for Gyno reversal protocol" with excellent results. I did not have any actual lumps formed, but by good results I mean that while on letro I felt fine, no symptoms from the letro. Aside from the letro protocol you may need to consider a surgical consult if you have acutal gyno tissue/lumps.
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12-08-2014, 09:56 PM #3New Member
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Thank you very much for the quick response, it's appreciated. My gyno isn't very bad, probably a marble on each side. Not noticeable I wouldn't think, I'm not completely shredded so the verdict is out but my doctor says it's not bad enough for health care to cover it. The hair thinning I attributed to my body stabilizing after HCG , and thought of it as "Telogen Effluvium" but now I think it might be because of the Estro.
The doctor said there wasn't any breast tissue but confirmed the Existance of a lump. So I know it is atleast that.
I can get an Adex prescription but everything else would be "underground". I know letro would be hard on my system and since I won't be running anything other than to boost test, how should I take it? Is there an effective way to lower my estrogen this late in the game? I wanna get this resolved and back on my way! Thanks in advance!
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12-09-2014, 01:30 AM #4New Member
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I would also be interested in just some advice on how to lower and normalize my estrogen even. This late into it! Thanks
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12-09-2014, 02:58 PM #5Junior Member
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Most of the ancillary drugs used are not restricted/illegal so they are available as "research chemicals labelled not for human consumption". There are many reputable sources.
Im interested to know more about your stats, age, weight, body fat%, was this your first cycle or have you been doing AAS for years?
Also your doctor seems very helpful, how much information did you give him about your cycle?
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12-09-2014, 03:01 PM #6
You could try running a cycle of ralox ..... Probably your best bet.
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12-09-2014, 06:11 PM #7New Member
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Thanks for the input! This was indeed my first cycle, I hopped on due to the advice of a friend of mine because I was prepping for my 2nd ACL repair and wanted to give myself the best chance of recovery. I was admittedly not educated enough when I started and am constantly trying to learn on the fly.
I'm at this very moment, 24, 213lbs, 6'0 and body fat is probably around 20%. Keep in mind I just had a bone graph so I've been lieing around for a month and a half. It's been stressful. I was up to 227 on the cycle, and was benching 275. I'm not quite sure where I am now.
He has been reasonably helpful for sure, I told him what I took and my reasons for taking it. Gyno has been a huge concern for me. I just wanna get my Estro back to a healthy level, doc says it's fine but I'd like to get it back to normal for me. I won't be doing anymore cycles after this either.
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12-09-2014, 06:12 PM #8New Member
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12-09-2014, 06:30 PM #9Originally Posted by ibinlyrical
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12-10-2014, 12:08 AM #10New Member
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I will look into that right away, I'm weary about putting more into my body since everything is so messed up right now. I don't have any MPB in my family, it's like my hair fell out all over my head at once, just brutally. No hairline recession. I would like to lower my Estrogen though, first priority! Whatever that takes. The problem is, the only place I know where to get anything only has Nolva/Clomid. Which is underground, and I don't even know how well it worked the first time I took it.
I heard today that "Stinging Nettle" was a really reliable way to lower estrogen, and I just wanna normalize and stay there. I'm not getting ready to do another cycle down the road, just a one time deal.
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12-10-2014, 12:23 AM #11New Member
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Also is there any reason to think that my test is gonna continue dropping even though it's reached my pre cycle levels?
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12-10-2014, 02:36 AM #12Originally Posted by ibinlyrical
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