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    trt patient looking for advice on first legit cycle.

    I'm 6' 0", 33 years old, 190lbs right at 15 percent bodyfat. I'm a trt patient, and I'm looking to run a cycle along with pct. I'm looking to do the pct to see if I can come off of the trt. If I can't come off the trt, I will continue it.

    my plan is to run test cyp 200mg per week, 400 test enth per week, and 600 EQ per week. The reason for the two tests is due to a blend. It is 300EQ, 200 enth, and 100 cyp per ml.

    I have run a pro hormone with horrible effects. My blood work went from everything being in range to my free and total test being cut in half, and my estrogen being quadrupled. I don't remember the exact numbers, but my blood work has never come back like this in 3 years.

    a couple years before I did a half ass test, decca cycle. Training was bad, diet was bad, doses were bad ( had no idea about the half lifes), so my results were bad.

    I have hcg , arimidex , nolva, and clomid. I will take .25 adex eod, hcg 250iu 3× weekly. I plan on running the EQ at 600 per week, and the test at either 600 or 800 per week. If the test is 600 it will be 400 enth, and 200 cyp. If 800 it will be an even split between the two.

    The plan is to run this for a minimum of 16 weeks, if at 16 I'm still progressing well I will go to 20. Start nolva, and clomid 2 weeks after last shot.

    i know you guys say test only for first cycle, but I'm thinking if it has not been a problem yet I could introduce eq. If that is a bad Idea I can run just test cyp at 4-600 a week for 12-14 weeks, and hold of on the blend for a second cycle.

    Is there anything you would change, or any critique I'm here to learn. Any help would be appreciated. Don't hold back if my thinking is dumb, you won't hurt my feelings

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    You need another option in the poll. Just try PCT to see if you can recover your natural test before trying a cycle.

    How long have you been on TRT?

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    Last edited by jstone; 12-29-2014 at 01:34 AM.

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    3 years. I just wanted to give a cycle a shot to see if it would help get me back to where i was before back surgery about 6 years ago. I will edit the poll. Thanks for the input

    i could not edit the poll. If you think just doing a pct would be best for me please just comment.

    Thank you for your time.

    I made the poll public so I could see who voted for what. I have not been here that long but there are some members that are very knowledgeable, and I'm more likely to follow there advice than someone like myself.
    Last edited by jstone; 12-29-2014 at 01:37 AM.

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    A cycle will in no way help you get back to where you were in regards to a normal test levels but if you have your HRT in check there is nothing wrong with a blast (cycle) once in a while but no reason to run a PCT, you just go back to your HRT dose.

    If you want to try to recover your natural test then it's best to go to the HRT forum on here and ask for advice. A few people have had success and there is a lot of good information there, even about blasting.

    IMO if you want to do a blast (cycle) then just the test only 400 - 500mg a week would be plenty.

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    I wouldn't even try and come off TRT if you have been on it for that long and obviously you was put on it for low test the best what could happen is you recover to the pointy pre trt but in all honesty seeing that you have been fully shut down for all this time while on trt you will recover a lot less than before so I would nt even try especially after a cycle because your going to lose everything you just built and the depression may be harsh.

    First cycle stick with test only then go back to your trt dose
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I wouldn't even try and come off TRT if you have been on it for that long and obviously you was put on it for low test the best what could happen is you recover to the pointy pre trt but in all honesty seeing that you have been fully shut down for all this time while on trt you will recover a lot less than before so I would nt even try especially after a cycle because your going to lose everything you just built and the depression may be harsh.

    First cycle stick with test only then go back to your trt dose


    Good advice.
    Last edited by lovbyts; 12-29-2014 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
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    For someone on TRT?
    yes ive edited it,
    Last edited by marcus300; 12-29-2014 at 06:18 AM.

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    I was on a ton of painkillers for my back, and now I'm not. So I thought I might try to see if my natural levels would come back. I think I will just stick with a test only then go back to my trt dose. If I try to get back my normal levels I will look into it further in the hrs forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You need another option in the poll. Just try PCT to see if you can recover your natural test before trying a cycle.

    How long have you been on TRT?
    I was going to say the same thing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    I was on a ton of painkillers for my back, and now I'm not. So I thought I might try to see if my natural levels would come back. I think I will just stick with a test only then go back to my trt dose. If I try to get back my normal levels I will look into it further in the hrs forum.
    just do a blast of test. but after a couple months back on hrt.. give a "restart" a try with SERMS IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop View Post
    just do a blast of test. but after a couple months back on hrt.. give a "restart" a try with SERMS IMO.
    This seems like the best option. I will run test only for 12 weeks, at 400mg per week. After 12 weeks I will resume trt for a few months. Then use serms to see if I can get the testis back to producing.

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