Is cycling only for Lance Armstrong?

[Projectswole]

So let me warn you that your butt is about to get hurt so I caution you before you continue. Anyway I started juicing about 2 years ago did a first cycle of test e with a proper pct of nova and cloud and DAA. I found the process of coming off rediculus and very counterproductive . I'm 27 been training for 5 years naturally and would consider myself experienced and very smart when it comes to training and diet, anyway after losing most gains from cycle and pct I decided to stay on because regardless of what all the people on this forum seem to say EVERY SINGLE PERSON that I know stays on year round, that is the people who are serious about keeping and making gains stay on with a blast and cruise protical . So I decided to stay on year round,did pretty much every basic compound on my 15 or so months on, Tren deca . Dbol . Ect. So I decided to come off recently to give my receptors receptors break and made a full recovery in 6 weeks. My pct was clomid, nolva and DAA. Anyway I got blood work done and it's all normal, my sex drive is back and I feel and look great. So my point to all the people on this forum is after learning through life experience and reading....most people on this site don't know what they are talking about and quite frankly act like immature bully's. The way you people respond to new users seeking advice is idiotic. Look up the term HARM REDUCTUON. These people are most likely going to juice even if you tell them not to so why not give advice on how to do it safely as well as warning them. You can't ask a basic question on this forum without being attacked, So in conclusion I am living proof that staying on doesn't completely mess you up like I was told on this site so expand your minds people. NO BRAIN NO GAIN

[Haydenz]

So let me warn you that your but is about to get hurt so I caution you before you continue. Anyway I started juicing about 2 years ago did a first cycle of test e with a proper pct of nova and cloud and DAA. I found the process of coming off rediculus. I'm 27 been training for 5 years naturally and would consider myself experienced and very smart when it comes to training and diet, anyway I decided to stay on because regardless of what all the people on this forum seem to say EVERY SINGLE PERSON that I know personally stays on, that is the people who are serious about keeping and making gains stay on with and dude blast and cruise. So I did pretty much every basic compound on my 15 or so months. Ten decade. Dust. Deal. Ect. So I decided to come off recently and made a full recovery in 6 weeks. My pct was cloud, nolva and DAA. Anyway I got blood work done and it's all normal, my sex drive is back and I feel and look great. So my point to all the people on this forum is after learning through life experience and reading most people on this site don't know what they are talking about and quite frankly act like immature bully's. The way you people respond to new users seeking advice is idiotic. Look up the term HARM REDUCTUON. These people are most likely going to juice even if you tell them not to so why not give advice on how to do it safely as well as warning them. So in conclusion I am living proof that staying on doesn't completely mess you up like I was told on this site so expand your minds people. NO BRAIN NO GAIN

see you in a year when your gains turn to mush xox

You're just another kid that hasn't done enough research.

[Back In Black]

Interesting first post over 2 years after joining.

Can you post your pre and post cycle bloodwork results?

And how recently after your PCT did you run bloods?

[Projectswole]

Wow just looking this over and my phones predictive text made a mess of this post. Hopefully you guys get the just of it

[Projectswole]

Interesting first post over 2 years after joining.

Can you post your pre and post cycle bloodwork results?

And how recently after your PCT did you run bloods?

I'm too busy for that my friend. I waited one month after pct to get blood done so 10 weeks after my last pin of test

[Back In Black]

I'm too busy for that my friend. I waited one month after pct to get blood done so 10 weeks after my last pin of test

Too busy huh? Well, when you get time take a phot of each and post them up so people can believe your claims.

And Get more bloodwork done 3 months after the end of your pct and let's see what that says. 4 weeks is too early for a definite reading, sorry.

[Projectswole]

see you in a year when your gains turn to mush xox

You're just another kid that hasn't done enough research.

I'm 27 bro, far from a kid physiclly and mentally. I did the pct thing and after research and personal experience I came to the conclusion that this is the way forward, keep hating and being negative though im sure that will work out great also Thanks for your comment, it just further illustrates my point

[Projectswole]

Too busy huh? Well, when you get time take a phot of each and post them up so people can believe your claims.

And Get more bloodwork done 3 months after the end of your pct and let's see what that says. 4 weeks is too early for a definite reading, sorry.

I wouldn't be able to find old bloodwork papers anyway. I'm not going to argue. Not sure what part of the world you are from but I live in Canada and I'm not exaggerating when I say I personally know at least 15 people who use gear and every single one stays on year round....also why would I lie about these claims lol. Your saying that coming back with normal bloods after 10 weeks isn't good enough, that's rediculus as if I'm going to regress into some point of low test now, that makes no sense. I'm about to jump back on and make some more gains as well. Thanks bud

[Back In Black]

It's after 4 weeks not after 10 weeks. But I doubt you're one to listen, sounds like you have it all worked out.

Good luck.

[swolehead]

its the fact that this is the Internet and someone with one post and no evidence to back up what they claim after hating on the way we do things around here isn't going to just take your word for what you say.even if it is true your only one person in this world. also those people you know are on year round meaning they don't have to recover so it's irrelevant.

[my username]

Haha, congrats on your supplement abuse and retarded genetics.

And you encourage this behavior while pointing your fingers at these kind fellows?

Take a break from the test.. it is giving you an unhealthy level of confidence.

Take a picture of your body in a year.. I want liver x-rays and all.

[Haydenz]

The fact you lost most of your gains means your diet and PCT just weren't up to par.

At the end of the day the boys on this forum, including me, will help you on your next post titled " I lost all my gains, I was wrong, Im depressed now "

Look forward to hearing from you.

[hawk14dl]

I don't understand what Lance Armstrong has to do with this?

Also. . You did a pct after your cycles, and lost your gains. . What's going to happen after a year long cycle and you do the same pct? You're going to lose your gains. .

That just confirms what everyone said, your diet and training post cycle weren't up to par.

These people that you're talking about that are on year round, they're on trt. Not cycles. They never come off, ever. . For the rest of their lives. You're going to be one of them, congratulations.

No brain, no gain? Lol, yeah you've illustrated that finely.

[ojm3]

The fact you lost most of your gains means your diet and PCT just weren't up to par.

At the end of the day the boys on this forum, including me, will help you on your next post titled " I lost all my gains, I was wrong, Im depressed now "

Look forward to hearing from you.

Real shit!

[gold43]

i don't understand what lance armstrong has to do with this?

Also. . You did a pct after your cycles, and lost your gains. . What's going to happen after a year long cycle and you do the same pct? You're going to lose your gains. .

That just confirms what everyone said, your diet and training post cycle weren't up to par.

These people that you're talking about that are on year round, they're on trt. Not cycles. They never come off, ever. . For the rest of their lives. You're going to be one of them, congratulations.

No brain, no gain? Lol, yeah you've illustrated that finely.

exactly

[RigPig]

Ladies & Gents...I present the first addition of
"Who's the biggest f**kin tard on here"...2015 edition. Lol

[Projectswole]

You people are so funny. Here are some facts. I was shutdown for atleast 15 months and now have fully recovered my natural test. I have also completely transformed my body and have kept it. I have not had a cat scan or any other serious medical exams to see how this has effected my body, I have seen a doctor who did bloods and gave me a clean bill of health once given all the information. Another fact, most of the people I know who stay on are competitive powerlifters and a few bodybuilders, some as young as 23 years old so no they are not on TRT...yeah a lot could end up on TRT because like someone said everyone is differnt. I'm not claiming this is risk free but I'm saying it's worked very well for me. I find it hard to believe that all people I know in real life are doing it wrong and a bunch of people on the Internet seem to have the only right way to do it, these forums have horrible reputations and you guys are a perfect example of why that is. What it comes down to in the end is people who are serious about this shit stay on test for long periods of time and that in my world is and fact because I see it everyday.

[my username]

You first said that being on T doesn't mess you up.. now saying you were shut down for Over A Year

You are hanging out with idiot meat heads who will most likely permanently damage their bodies for the mere chance to "look good". In reality, no one gives a **** about what you look like. Aside from your natural face, height and dick size, your corpse will look just like everyone elses in the end. There are better ways to live life.

Good luck

[hawk14dl]

You've been off 4 weeks. Of course you still have your gains.

And your body still has high hormone levels because it's still reacting to your pct.

Give it 2-3 months, your body won't be "fully recovered".

Also, we give prudent information on the side of health and safety. Sure, some people can get away with long cycles and recover. Some never recover from a 10 week cycle.

So don't go around saying the information we give is erroneous, it's factual information based on science and experience.

Your going off what some guys in the gym told you. I guarantee you, they're on trt, self administered or not. They tell you they're on year round because technically they are. You're the one naive enough not to see the writing on the wall

[Haydenz]

You people are so funny. Here are some facts. I was shutdown for atleast 15 months and now have fully recovered my natural test. I have also completely transformed my body and have kept it. I have not had a cat scan or any other serious medical exams to see how this has effected my body, I have seen a doctor who did bloods and gave me a clean bill of health once given all the information. Another fact, most of the people I know who stay on are competitive powerlifters and a few bodybuilders, some as young as 23 years old so no they are not on TRT...yeah a lot could end up on TRT because like someone said everyone is differnt. I'm not claiming this is risk free but I'm saying it's worked very well for me. I find it hard to believe that all people I know in real life are doing it wrong and a bunch of people on the Internet seem to have the only right way to do it, these forums have horrible reputations and you guys are a perfect example of why that is. What it comes down to in the end is people who are serious about this shit stay on test for long periods of time and that in my world is and fact because I see it everyday.

You poor poor child, what have the meat heads done to you!

[thephoenix25]

It seems very coincidental that we recently had many newbs arguing that their exceptionally long cycles would be a good idea. And now a new member with less than 10 posts all within this one thread has miraculously appeared to enlighten us all on the merits of exceptionally long cycle with his anecdotal evidence.

I call troll

[Cody95]

You first said that being on T doesn't mess you up.. now saying you were shut down for Over A Year

You are hanging out with idiot meat heads who will most likely permanently damage their bodies for the mere chance to "look good". In reality, no one gives a **** about what you look like. Aside from your natural face, height and dick size, your corpse will look just like everyone elses in the end. There are better ways to live life.

Good luck

Although I'm not taking his side. What he means by being "shut down" is because he was cycling test for 15 months which ofcourse shuts you down and he "recovered" with pct, I believe that's what he was trying to say.

[pavlenko]

I have a friend that was heavy into competitions he was on a year and couldnt recover after with a basic prolonged pct. He had to go to a specialist it took him awhile to recover but he did. so its possible to recover while still young, now keeping gains is another story