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    TRT and cycles

    Hey

    At the moment i am running 250 mg test e EW and 0,5 mg adex EOD and i am planning on during this for years to come. Now my questions are:

    Is this is responsible considering the risk?

    I am thinking about once a year adding another steroid for 8-12 weeks to get some gains, could i just do this?

    Do i have to add something to my yearly cycle like HCG or can i just run 250 mg test e EW and 0,5 mg adex EOD without running into mayor estrogen and receptor problems like SHGB?

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    on 250mg ew or more you will be shut down. "needing" or should i say wanting HCG is preference. I been on hrt for years and dont bother for couple years now. they can shrink for all I care as long a the pole is issue free ; )

    yes you could just run cycle 1-2 times a year and go back to hrt.

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    That is alot of test ew for trt (witch this is not) to be running for years to come as for your Q.

    As for adding other compounds in for a blast there is no probs with that but there would be no point in adding HCG for a blast the stoping to go back to your 250wk and the .5 eod of adex is a bit much for 250mg wk but we are all different. Have you got any blood work to say you need this amount ?.

    And is it right to say your trt is not done by a doc ?.

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    depends on the individual...

    a friends of mine runs 250EW and his in the middle top range.
    me at 250EW I am over twice the top.

    btw he use pharma, I dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qscgugcsq View Post
    depends on the individual...

    a friends of mine runs 250EW and his in the middle top range.
    me at 250EW I am over twice the top.

    btw he use pharma, I dont.
    It does no argument on the individual but 250mg wk is not trt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post

    It does no argument on the individual but 250mg wk is not trt.
    I dont wanna start anything here.

    but by definition TRT is a replacement dose of testosterone .
    the goal of TRT is to put you jn normal range.

    so if he needs to use 250mg to be in the normal range then it is TRT.
    if he would need 500mg then it is still TRT.

    In no way im saying the op his in normal range with 250mg. which I agree is alot.

    but if it is needed it is still TRT.

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    So the only reason to use HCG would be to keep my ball from shrinking?

    Clarky
    My TRT was not done by a doc and i am aware that 250 mg EW i a bit high, but a lot of people
    do a lot bigger dosages for blast then cruise year round so i should be safe right?
    My adex dosage i 0,5 mg E3D which after a lot of probs seems to work for me...the EOD was a typo so my bad


    This is by no mean a real TRT since i can't get my doc to run bloodwork atm so i don't know my levels
    but i am working on that, but until then i would like to run 250 mg test e EW if it is in fact relativly safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by qscgugcsq View Post
    I dont wanna start anything here.

    but by definition TRT is a replacement dose of testosterone .
    the goal of TRT is to put you jn normal range.

    Yes

    so if he needs to use 250mg to be in the normal range then it is TRT.
    if he would need 500mg then it is still TRT.

    Yes

    In no way im saying the op his in normal range with 250mg. which I agree is alot.

    but if it is needed it is still TRT.
    Yes But there is no chance someone would need 250mg wk to replace what whey would produce natty.

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    ATM i am not shooting for natural lvl and whether or not someone would need 250 mg test e to replace natty is not something that should be discussed here I think

    Know I would like to lead your guys attention to my previous and I would very much appreciate your answers to that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post
    Juced porkchop
    So the only reason to use HCG would be to keep my ball from shrinking?
    No read this http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

    Clarky
    My TRT was not done by a doc and i am aware that 250 mg EW i a bit high, but a lot of people
    do a lot bigger dosages for blast then cruise year round so i should be safe right?
    My adex dosage i 0,5 mg E3D which after a lot of probs seems to work for me...the EOD was a typo so my bad

    No there thick. On the adex you know your body but blood work would be good for you there.

    This is by no mean a real TRT since i can't get my doc to run bloodwork atm so i don't know my levels
    but i am working on that, but until then i would like to run 250 mg test e EW if it is in fact relativly safe
    See above ^^
    you see with out blood work and running a dose like that every wk you should check your

    RBC
    PCV
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    ECT ECT. Just trying to help you out just because some other people do it does not mean it's right good luck.

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    As long as your blood work (and it should be frequent) indicates you're fine then there are no issues. To your question regarding adding in other AAS, yes you can. Just be sure you have the pre-requisite knowledge to do so without hurting yourself. Spend more time here reading and learning. Good advice above.
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    How often should i get blood work done?

    So if any bloodwork indicates that i am fine on 250 mg test e EW and 0,5 mg adex E3D there would be no reason to bring in HCG or worrying about stagnation because of increased SHGB?

    So far i am very pleased with you guys !

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post
    How often should i get blood work done?

    So if any bloodwork indicates that i am fine on 250 mg test e EW and 0,5 mg adex E3D there would be no reason to bring in HCG or worrying about stagnation because of increased SHGB?

    So far i am very pleased with you guys !
    You can get pre cycle bw and post cycle bw and see how you fare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    You can get pre cycle bw and post cycle bw and see how you fare.
    That's not really and option in my case since I am already on and not going of in the near future unless doc says otherwise
    So are we talking every 3 month or ?

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    How old are you and why did you decide to self prescribe this TRT without bloodwork?

    BTW I think your AI dose is way too high for the test level and you should be using HCG in any event if you are administering exogenous testosterone .
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    Im 25 almost 26 and here is why
    I have had erection problems since i was like 19/20 and my doc ran some test and wouldn't prescribe me anything back then and said my lvl where low but normal. So i got my hands on some V and used that for 1-2 years with my doc on the side and then i ran a cycle of 250 mg test e EW for 12 weeks and i just felt great!
    I did't need the V anymore and everything i my life just lined up until i came off and i crashed right back where i began erection wise...so i ran V again until like 6-10 weeks ago and i decided i would go on test e again and mostly likely stay on if it was healthy or minimal risk.

    I am having trouble AI wise because some say 0,25 mg EOD day and that just makes my dick soft and my niples itch like shit, but with 0,5 mg E3D everything is just fine, but i will know for sure when i get bloodwork done so i can see my estrogen lvls.

    I live in Denmark and the generel idea here is that HCG is useless for anything but PCT so why should i use that while on steroids ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post

    That's not really and option in my case since I am already on and not going of in the near future unless doc says otherwise
    So are we talking every 3 month or ?
    I understand but if your trt is dialed in pre cycle with bw to document it then that is what you would want to strive for post cycle. Two months post cycle would probably be a decent amount of time. Depending where you live in the country (assuming you are from the US) some states are tougher then others to get bw. Mass is brutal.

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